Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by lunorian on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:22AM
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But I love Google - I trade them my privacy and they give me tools that let me be lazy.
Oh my god your youtube flow is GENIUS. I am extremely excited about trying it. How did you choose mpv?
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by Sir_Cmpwn on Thursday January 25, 2018 @12:22PM
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It's just the best option. I was recently about ready to fork it, actually, but the political problems upstream were fixed and it returned to being the best option.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by tbirrell on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:12AM
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Your twitter link at the bottom of that article goes to an account suspended page.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by Sir_Cmpwn on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:16AM
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I left Twitter, too. I can be found on Mastodon now:
I'll update the article, thanks!
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by stochastic_monk on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:30AM
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Mastodon as a social network makes me happy because it brings to mind the prior glory of Leviathan and Blood Mountain.
...
And then I remember why I stopped using social networks (besides github) years ago.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by romanovcode on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:20AM
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Not using google is much simpler then it sounds.
- iPhone
- DDG
- Firefox/Safari
- Some other email then google
That's pretty much all you need.
A coworker uses DDG and each time we are talking about a problem at work (software development) and need to search something, I am disappointed by the lack of good results and make him use Google instead. It is currently 5 - 0 for Google if I recall correctly.
I would switch in a heartbeat if the results were comparable. Every time I’ve given it (or Bing) a shot for a few weeks, Google was simply better.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by Sir_Cmpwn on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:44AM
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DDG requires a shift in habits to get good results. Google gives you better results because it knows you and you can be less specific. Search for "django framework" instead of "django", for example.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by skummetmaelk on Thursday January 25, 2018 @12:03PM
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After using ddg for a while it feels much easier to find what I need using it than google. Maybe because I am not sandboxed correctly by google. Then again, ddg gives good results without sandboxing.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by godshatter on Thursday January 25, 2018 @12:17PM
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Use "!g" to have DDG send the query to google. You get the results you want without the tracking.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by slap_shot on Thursday January 25, 2018 @12:38PM
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Interesting. Is it just me or shouldn't that be the default functionality? An added benefit is that DDG can then see what result the user picks, compare than to how well (if at all) DDG ranked that link.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by cpeterso on Thursday January 25, 2018 @12:45PM
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!g redirects to google.com, so the results are not displayed or anonymized by DDG. If you want Google results without Google tracking, check out startpage.com. (!sp in DDG)
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by freehunter on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:24AM
(#16231964)
Yup. The only Google product that I've found hard to replace as someone who frequently needs to semi-coherently communicate in a foreign language is Google Translate. Google Translate still is far from perfect, but it's a decent enough check on my spelling and grammar, but it's lightyears ahead of any competition I've found so far.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by JanLaussmann on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:36AM
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https://www.deepl.com/translator is amazing, maybe even better than Google translate.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by Sir_Cmpwn on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:50AM
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Started typing some Japanese in there and it detected French! Then I noticed that it only supports a small handful of languages. I have to admit I use Google Translate too, though it's often pretty bad at translating Japanese.
That reminds me of the TED talk [0] Luis von Ahn did when he announced duolingo.
It's a great product, I stopped using google translate when I discovered this one. The translation is much better, more accurate IMO.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by freehunter on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:39AM
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Excellent, I haven't tried this one. I'll give it a shot, thanks!
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by xienze on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:46AM
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I think a lot of people imagine leaving GMail as being very difficult but in my experience, not really. Get Fastmail and set it up with a custom domain. Not free, but suuuper cheap. Then go through all your accounts and update your email address. Forward GMail to your new email for a while. Done.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by antimatter on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:58AM
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I did exactly this 2 years ago and it was just as painless as you described. Took a few months of slowly migrating various accounts to new email via forwarding. I’m just annoyed at myself for not having done it sooner.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by scrollaway on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:54AM
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You're just glancing over the part where someone has years of archived, labeled, tagged emails in a convenient searchable UI. Importing that isn't straightforward for a techie, let alone a non-techie.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by xienze on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:57AM
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Yes I did, sorry. Fastmail does have a GMail import (and tags become folders). The UI is different, yes.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by Sir_Cmpwn on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:30AM
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Apple is just a different walled garden, albiet one with better privacy tools.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by romanovcode on Thursday January 25, 2018 @12:43PM
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Apple doesn't make money by selling your data. Good enough for me.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by Sir_Cmpwn on Thursday January 25, 2018 @01:47PM
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At least not now. When their numbers start looking wrong and they have investors and stockholders barking down their nicks they will make choices that benefit them at your expense.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by anowlcalledjosh on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:42AM
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There's also:
- cloud storage
- shared document editing
- translate
- instant messaging
- calendar
- maps
Not that any of those have no non-Google alternative, but they're all things that Google offers.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by metanoetic on Thursday January 25, 2018 @01:37PM
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"- translate"
learn every language?
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by knolan on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:59AM
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I’ve done all of that except for gmail and that account is slowly turning into my ancient Hotmail account.
I don’t miss Google services - apart from Maps—Apple Maps is usable, just.
Re:Why I left Google (HN search results)
by seanopedia on Thursday January 25, 2018 @03:34PM
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Are the mods fairly well known for manipulating negative Google posts on the front page?
https://drewdevault.com/2016/11/16/Getting-on-without-Google...