Re:Hetzner Cloud
by pulse7 on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @06:24AM
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If they open a DC in the US, then - by the US laws - their US company will have to provide the data even from German DCs when requested by the US government. So it is maybe better not to enter the US...
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Perhaps Canada could be a location that's beyond US jurisdiction but mostly solves the SoL problem.
Re:Hetzner Cloud
by revelation on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @06:55AM
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Actually, Microsofts challenge is still pending at the Supreme Court, no?
They could form a separate company to handle US operations only.
OVH tries to do that but I doubt that's waterproof. Probably easier to have an agreement with a US provider.
Having everything in the EU makes it much easier for them and is a selling point for many customers.
A US company can't force a German company to hand out data, I don't see what you mean by "waterproof".
Re:Hetzner Cloud
by albertgoeswoof on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @07:58AM
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The US government might not agree that they are two separate entities (they're not), and could take action based on that position (e.g. shut down the US company, ask the German government to compel the German company to comply with their laws etc.)
Microsoft has contracted their German Azure region to Deutsche Telekom (which is clearly a separate company) and claims to not be able to access the data. An arrangement similar to this (where basically the brand and technology is used by an actually independent company) could be possible.
Unless the US government slightly extends the law to include also the brands...
Somewhere on their forum (not sure if this has been made public somewhere) they said they're looking to open a datacenter in Finland...
Not sure if that helps with your latency problem or not, but options.... :)
http://www.goodnewsfinland.com/hetzner-sets-foot-finland/
They should start operations this year
Good point. Maybe if they opened a DC in Greenland or Iceland.
Iceland would theoretically be great, ideal location for US and Europe. But they'd need to lay a cable first, traffic Iceland-US is currently routed through Denmark/UK.
Iceland also has cheap renewable energy.
There is the Greenland connect cable¹ built in 2009 that goes from Iceland to Canada. Sounds like it currently has 60GBit/s.
At least when I was in Iceland traffic to the US was never routed through that cable (from traceroutes).
Quebec appears to be the better choice for cheap renewable energy.