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Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by zimpenfish on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @10:03AM (#16158631)
> a forward thinking developer saying "hey should we at least have colored buttons

Accessibility becomes an issue for colourblind people then.

Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by jdmichal on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @10:28AM (#16158818)
Government standards never allow only color distinction. There always must be an additional factor than just color.

For instance, here's some icons from NATO, which used to be MIL-STD-2525. You'll notice that all the icons differentiate in both color and form. The NTDS standards for Naval systems are similar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_Joint_Military_Symbology#...

Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by usrusr on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @12:08PM (#16159780)
Well, in addition to the color coding I suppose the text would still be different?

To me, the screenshot looks more like a list of user-defined presets than something that went through the original software development process. Maybe something along the lines of only superuser can define new presets, but lower users can activate them. That way, at least random "I love you honeybunny" pranks would be avoided, but the risk of skipping a real warning because of insufficient permissions would be avoided.

A physical UI would have an openly accessible switch for "drill" and "not a drill" protected behind a seal that needs to be broken, this is difficult to replicate in software.

Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by jdmichal on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @12:23PM (#16159935)
I did think of the covered switches that are common in movies. I think the equivalent in software are confirmation dialogs, but those are not as effective as the physical counterparts due to click-through-itis disease. [0] This could actually be one of those types of things that might benefit from a different presentation, such as a silly skeumorphic design involving a graphical cover.

[0] Which, to be fair to users, is a disease introduced by putting too many switches under covers which shouldn't be.

Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by mikeash on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @08:45PM (#16164766)
They could use an actual covered switch. Maybe something this important should have a bit of physical infrastructure associated with it. Doing everything in software can be great, but it's not always the best solution.
Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by zimpenfish on Wednesday January 17, 2018 @06:12AM (#16167019)
> You'll notice that all the icons differentiate in both color and form.

Good stuff but I think they could probably have gone with something else for "Neutral" - the distinction between a 16:10 rectangle and a square could easily be missed in a hurry, especially at small sizes.

Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by noir_lord on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @11:28AM (#16159348)
Hadn't seen this, it's brilliant.
Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by pc86 on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @10:21AM (#16158764)
Not necessarily. Colorblind doesn't mean "everything is grey" it means you have trouble distinguishing between between a few, usually fairly specific colors. There are plenty of color schemes out that that are perfectly fine for colorblind folks, especially when you only need 2-3 distinct colors.
Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by jdietrich on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @10:39AM (#16158914)
Nope. Dichromatic color deficiency is the most common form of color blindness, but about one in 20,000 people are completely unable to perceive color due to a variety of ophthalmic and neurological deficits. Even among dichromats, you can only reliably expect all users to be able to distinguish red and blue. It's probably not worth worrying about too much in most circumstances, but it is a relevant factor if you're designing safety-critical systems with a large user base.
Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by pc86 on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @11:51AM (#16159595)
Achromatopsia affects one in ~33,000 people. By comparison, any form of colorblindness affects one in 8 men and one in 200 women.

I'm not sure "someone using this system might see everything as the same shade of grey" is a realistic concern at those levels of incidence.

Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by ClassyJacket on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @05:22PM (#16163287)
If you're going to worry about that, wouldn't you be more concerned about the operator being fully blind? And simply justify not hiring the vision impaired for this particular position?

"safety-critical systems with a large user base"

Surely a missile warning system would be operated by a very, very small number of people, on the order of twenty or thirty?

Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by logfromblammo on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @10:57AM (#16159079)
Black, blue, yellow, and white is usually a safe palette. Yellow-and-black diagonal striping is a fairly clear "exercise caution" indicator.
Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by sydd on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @10:50AM (#16159012)
I am not an expert, but you should not hire colorblind people to operate a nuclear warning system.
Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by acdha on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @11:40AM (#16159486)
You're saying that people should be prevented from getting jobs they're capable of performing because the alternative is to crack open decades old usability texts? There are multiple suggestions in this thread which could be easily implemented at little-to-no extra cost without sacrificing accessibility.
Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by sydd on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @06:10PM (#16163729)
No, its because for certain jobs you need certain qualities. They might upgrade this system, but who knows what else lurks in their basement. Its the same reason why you would not train a severely short-sighted person to be a sniper.
Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by acdha on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @06:39PM (#16163973)
There’s a big difference there: for a sniper, vision is a core skill.

For someone sending alerts, color vision is not — things like keeping cool under pressure, following procedure, interpreting chaotic information, etc. are.

Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by zimpenfish on Wednesday January 17, 2018 @06:07AM (#16166997)
Ok, you've hired William because he's got 20/20 and full colour vision.

One problem: William's in the toilet. He had a bad taco for lunch and honestly, he's going to be in there for a good 10 minutes. And there's a missile coming. Luckily Frank the IT guy is there and knows what to do but ... he's colourblind!

Oh dear. He's just sent out a dummy warning by mistake and now half of Hawaii is going to die. Well done.

Re:The screen that set off the ballistic missile alert on Sa... by jdietrich on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @10:27AM (#16158813)
That's not a huge obstacle if you know what you're doing. Color is only one tool in the arsenal - shade, shape, pattern and outline can all be used to visually distinguish UI elements.