Re:Cloud companies consider Intel rivals after security flaw...
by electrograv on Saturday January 13, 2018 @12:40AM
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AMD is no more lucky than ARM, though Intel was ‘unlucky’: Spectre affects Intel, AMD, and ARM alike, while Meltdown Intel CPUs disproportionately (AMD and ARM CPUs have been mostly unaffected by it).
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Re:Cloud companies consider Intel rivals after security flaw...
by DSMan195276 on Saturday January 13, 2018 @04:15AM
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That's not entirely accurate. There are a lot of ARM CPUs that are not vulnerable to Spectre, and that includes a lot of them that are in use in actual devices. For example, my phone happens to use a Cortex-A53, which is not vulnerable. It is however easy to miss this detail from their 'security update' [0] because the table doesn't list CPUs that aren't affected.
Also, I don't believe the single ARM CPU that's vulnerable to meltdown (Cortex-A75) has actually been included in any devices at this point, so for now it is safe to assume any ARM-based device you have is not vulnerable to meltdown.
Re:Cloud companies consider Intel rivals after security flaw...
by Narishma on Saturday January 13, 2018 @04:37AM
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I believe Apple's ARM CPUs are vulnerable to Meltdown.
Re:Cloud companies consider Intel rivals after security flaw...
by colejohnson66 on Saturday January 13, 2018 @05:18AM
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Not the Watch though. Apple, as expected, hasn’t said why.
Re:Cloud companies consider Intel rivals after security flaw...
by protomyth on Saturday January 13, 2018 @11:35AM
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Probably because its a much simpler core like all the other chips that are immune. It simply doesn't do the the logic that would get the chip in trouble.
Re:Cloud companies consider Intel rivals after security flaw...
by pkaye on Saturday January 13, 2018 @12:29PM
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That is because a lot of ARM cores don't have out-of-order or speculation capabilities.
Re:Cloud companies consider Intel rivals after security flaw...
by contrarian_ on Saturday January 13, 2018 @06:35AM
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AMD CPUs are completely unaffected by Meltdown, since AMD checks permissions before fetching memory into the cache.
Re:Cloud companies consider Intel rivals after security flaw...
by exikyut on Saturday January 13, 2018 @07:33AM
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It's really impressive that AMD CPUs are as fast as they are given that this is the case.
Re:Cloud companies consider Intel rivals after security flaw...
by exikyut on Saturday January 13, 2018 @09:08PM
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This is now at -1 and I am extremely confused as to why.