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Re:Takeaways from KotlinConf 2017 by TylerE on Thursday January 11, 2018 @07:15PM (#16129328)
History says no.

Any widget toolkit, on any platform ever, that has tried to provide it's own cross-platform widgets, has been completely terrible and ends up being native-nowhere instead of native-everywhere.

Re:Takeaways from KotlinConf 2017 by blueprint on Thursday January 11, 2018 @08:12PM (#16129622)
I tend to agree with this. We need a way to natively address the complete set of each platform's capabilities without needing to worry about them falling out of lockstep if some centralized maintenance entity decides they're no longer sufficiently incentivized to maintain their social contract with their framework adopters. It may indeed be the case that we can already accomplish this with properly written (concrete implementation agnostic) modular code but fmpov there's no complete solution being offered to the public at present. My hope is that in the next few years we get to see Google adopt Swift. Then it's just a matter of reinventing the browser so we can build native web apps in Swift as well. :P
Re:Takeaways from KotlinConf 2017 by zastrowm on Thursday January 11, 2018 @10:08PM (#16130106)
I'm curious if this will change now that webapps/electron-apps have become so popular. It may be that users have begun non-native apps as the new norm.
Re:Takeaways from KotlinConf 2017 by pjmlp on Friday January 12, 2018 @01:37AM (#16130848)
In five years the Electron craziness will be gone.
Re:Takeaways from KotlinConf 2017 by bonesss on Friday January 12, 2018 @03:19AM (#16131327)
And, judging from what was going on 5 years ago, whatever replaces it will be even crazier and trendier :)
Re:Takeaways from KotlinConf 2017 by pjmlp on Friday January 12, 2018 @03:59AM (#16131477)
My bet, browser will be reduced to yet another general purpose VM, with the new trend being WebAssembly + Canvas/WebGL.

Or back to pure native.

Re:Takeaways from KotlinConf 2017 by abiox on Friday January 12, 2018 @03:30AM (#16131373)
what will replace it?
Re:Takeaways from KotlinConf 2017 by pjmlp on Friday January 12, 2018 @03:56AM (#16131461)
Native apps, just like it happened on Windows with XUL and MSHTML apps.