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Re:CES 2018: Look to the Processor, Not the Display, for TV ... by Crespyl on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @10:55AM (#16115831)
You may or may not be able to get rid of some or all of the image processing, but you still have all the other issues of a "smart" TV, like auto updates/ads/tracking/infection and other problems that come with having too much cheap software where it doesn't belong.
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Re:CES 2018: Look to the Processor, Not the Display, for TV ... by slobotron on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @11:20AM (#16116146)
Is it not possible to just not connect it to the Internet?
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Re:CES 2018: Look to the Processor, Not the Display, for TV ... by bradyd on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @11:31AM (#16116308)
With some smart TVs, no. For example some Vizio TVs require you to install the Vizio app on your phone (you must allow location tracking) and connect over WiFi before you can even finish the setup process.
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Re:CES 2018: Look to the Processor, Not the Display, for TV ... by wernercd on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @12:26PM (#16116882)
What's to stop you from disconnecting it after setup?

I've got newer Vizio's with Chromecasts connected to them... no issues with them being disconnected.

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Re:CES 2018: Look to the Processor, Not the Display, for TV ... by Crespyl on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @02:53PM (#16118354)
Usually, but some won't let you finish set up without some internet access.

Even if you do keep it disconnected, there's no guarantee that a badly behaved update process or app won't interfere with the normal operation in some way.

I'm sure there do exist models that are perfectly fine in offline mode, but it's still a lot of (very opaque) room for things to go wrong in ways that a "dumb" display won't have.

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Re:CES 2018: Look to the Processor, Not the Display, for TV ... by Momquist on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @03:02PM (#16118462)
That's what I usually do.

But, even then it can be annoying. If I happen to press on the smart key on my remote, by mistake, the TV then takes ages to check that indeed there is no connection, with a large and unescapable message dialog.

Bad design decisions all around.

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