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Re:Ocean's Oxygen Starts Running Low (2016) by czechdeveloper on Sunday January 07, 2018 @07:16AM (#16090580)
This vastly underestimates human capacity to destroy earth, which is also reason why lost of people do not believe in climate change to begin with.

If we go, all vertebrates go too. At least all cat and bigger sized.

Life will survive, but I would not call if "fine". Is it still fine if it's only microscopic life? When it stops being fine?

Re:Ocean's Oxygen Starts Running Low (2016) by throwaway9990 on Sunday January 07, 2018 @07:27AM (#16090618)
Dinosaurs died off. Earth is fine.

I think unless we start blowing up Earth with nuclear weapons on purpose, it will be fine.

If humans are gone today, the CO2 levels will go back to normal pretty quickly with plenty of animals surviving all over the place.

Re:Ocean's Oxygen Starts Running Low (2016) by TeMPOraL on Sunday January 07, 2018 @07:39AM (#16090650)
The point is, nobody really gives a damn about Earth itself, and why should we? It's a rock.

What we care about is us, humans. When we say "save the planet", what we mean is "save the ecosystem that's letting us live here, and enjoy that life". If we break things and die as a result, sure, something else will live. But we don't care about that something else, we care about us.

It's a stupid shorthand, but for some reason people appreciate the fake humility of saying it's about Earth, not about us.

Re:Ocean's Oxygen Starts Running Low (2016) by worldsayshi on Sunday January 07, 2018 @07:45AM (#16090672)
> Earth will be fine

I'm so tired of hearing this empty phrase being used. Sure it was fun as a punchline but move along already. It's such a derailment of the discussion. It doesn't state what we mean by "earth" - is it the rock, the ecosystem, life itself? And it implies that the "earth" that is fine is the one that we actually should care about. I have no idea, because the way it's used is not really falsifiable and it's not really anything but a rhetorical trick.

Re:Ocean's Oxygen Starts Running Low (2016) by throwaway9990 on Sunday January 07, 2018 @07:55AM (#16090698)
Not sure why you're tired of it since I haven't heard this argument used much.

Regardless, when I say Earth, I mean the rock and likely ecosystems that currently exist and might develop on it. I think these things cannot be easily separated that's why Earth is used.

Re:Ocean's Oxygen Starts Running Low (2016) by srdev on Sunday January 07, 2018 @03:07PM (#16092380)
It’s used in nearly every climate change discussion. Its not particularly profound or thought provoking.
Re:Ocean's Oxygen Starts Running Low (2016) by worldsayshi on Sunday January 07, 2018 @06:34PM (#16093440)
> and likely ecosystems that currently exist

Well if that's part of "Earth" then "Earth will be fine" is a lie.

Re:Ocean's Oxygen Starts Running Low (2016) by jacquesm on Sunday January 07, 2018 @07:38AM (#16090647)
> Earth is fine

But dinosaurs clearly are not.

> I think unless we start blowing up Earth with nuclear weapons on purpose, it will be fine.

What you think is not so important. What the worlds scientists specialising in that field think is important. If you feel that short of nuclear global destruction our impact is negligible then that contradicts just about all peer reviewed research.

> If humans are gone today, the CO2 levels will go back to normal pretty quickly with plenty of animals surviving all over the place.

That does not align with my understanding of the word 'fine', but seems to imply a rather apocalyptic ending for the human race, something that we might do better to avoid.

Re:Ocean's Oxygen Starts Running Low (2016) by yongjik on Sunday January 07, 2018 @03:00PM (#16092359)
"At this rate most major cities will have to be abandoned in X years."

"Meh, dinosaurs have come and gone. The Earth will be fine."

"...To combat this, we need budget. Starting this year, your tax will increase by five percent."

"Murder! Fire! Revolution! How dare you!"

...happens all the time.

Re:Ocean's Oxygen Starts Running Low (2016) by koonsolo on Sunday January 07, 2018 @03:30PM (#16092509)
So what if we blow up Earth? Even if we would blow up the sun, the Milky Way will be fine, and so will all other galaxies around us.

No worries. ;P

Re:Ocean's Oxygen Starts Running Low (2016) by c0nducktr on Sunday January 07, 2018 @12:20PM (#16091596)
I don't really care if the "Earth is fine" if it's uninhabitable for humans.