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Re:Uber Co-Founder Travis Kalanick Said to Plan Sale of 29% ... by forgotpw2018 on Friday January 05, 2018 @03:00AM (#16077260)
Compared to what the average college student was doing? No. It was a great use of time. We had a team, a goal, and a purpose. No stupider than being on mock trial or chess team.

It's all pointless if you think about it too much, but that competition drove a ton of benefits to the school. IFC (Interfraternity counsil) ran most of the school events. Our attendance at official school functions like football games or president speeches was about 30% of attendees, even though 'greek life' was only 4% of the student population.

Over 50% of alumni endowment/donation money was from sorority/fraternity members even though they made up a single digits percentage of graduates since the 60s.

I don't understand why Greek life is attacked so judiciously on HN when it's clearly a net positive to schools and the students that join. Of course it's not for everyone but that's not a reason to vilify it.

Re:Uber Co-Founder Travis Kalanick Said to Plan Sale of 29% ... by strgcmc on Friday January 05, 2018 @10:31AM (#16079170)
> Of course it's not for everyone but that's not a reason to vilify it.

Knitting is not for everyone, but by choosing not to be a knitter, I'm generally not missing out on social/career advancement opportunities (e.g. I apply for a job but I'm not in a frat, I'm more qualified than the next guy, but the next guy was a frat brother of the hiring manager, so guess who wins?).

Even if I do choose to be a knitter, I'm generally not putting myself at higher risk of death, such as by being forced to drink toxic amounts of alcohol and then having my supposed "brothers" abandon me after I fall down the stairs and lie there bleeding to death.

There's a huge logical gap inside the statement, "not everyone has to like thing XYZ, q.e.d. there can be no criticism of thing XYZ".

Re:Uber Co-Founder Travis Kalanick Said to Plan Sale of 29% ... by softawre on Friday January 05, 2018 @12:41PM (#16080104)
Interesting that joining the military grants the same benefits and has the same risks you mention.
Re:Uber Co-Founder Travis Kalanick Said to Plan Sale of 29% ... by forgotpw2018 on Friday January 05, 2018 @01:30PM (#16080501)
Fraternity hazing and military bootcamp are basically the same.

There's a lot of parallels that shouldn't be legal since hazing isn't, but nobody talks about it

Re:Uber Co-Founder Travis Kalanick Said to Plan Sale of 29% ... by sirspacey on Friday January 05, 2018 @06:26PM (#16082687)
I’d be very interested to learn more from your experience. i see great potential in Greek orgs, a training ground that is systematically undervalued. if you’d be game for an interview, my email is: sirspacey.hn at the Gmail