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Re:The Case for the Subway by ng12 on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @01:08PM (#16063367)
> modernize the public transportation system and, obviously, the housing crisis.

I think the two are very related. The Bay Area's biggest problem is there is no Brooklyn or Queens -- meaning large, extremely dense residential areas which are a (relatively) painless commute from the city.

Re:The Case for the Subway by ravitation on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @02:20PM (#16064132)
Brooklyn and Queens didn't become dense residential areas with relatively painless commutes from the city overnight. It's not like there isn't land for such areas in the bay area, the biggest issue is that they are all separate cities and have separate local governments.
Re:The Case for the Subway by ebikelaw on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @01:17PM (#16063467)
Well, all we need to do is make Oakland seven times more populous, and it's Brooklyn.
Re:The Case for the Subway by electricslpnsld on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @01:49PM (#16063817)
And more accessible by transit. The parts of Oakland near BART are super easy to get to FIDI, Market, the Mission, etc, but huge swaths of the Town are miles from BART.

Hell, drop a few BART stations in Alameda you'd be a huge step in the right direction.

Re:The Case for the Subway by ebikelaw on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @02:11PM (#16064030)
The population of Oakland is more densely packed around BART stations than is the population of San Francisco. Yes there are “large swaths” within the city limits, but they are the least populous.
Re:The Case for the Subway by michaelleslie on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @06:31PM (#16066515)
Some Second Transbay Tube plans mention a stop in Alameda before entering Oakland.

Whether the project happens in San Francisco's lip-service to transit NIMBY climate is the bigger question.