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Re:Iceland becomes first country to legalise equal pay by dragonwriter on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @10:04AM (#16061495)
> one wonders why none of them leads by example and hires woman only.

Because that's blatantly, bright-line illegal?

Re:Iceland becomes first country to legalise equal pay by mafribe on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @10:14AM (#16061580)
Sounds like a rationalisation.

Plenty of places have no problem hiring (almost) only women, e.g. kindergarden, waitresses, art galleries, medical sociologists, stewardesses.

In any case I doubt this would be illegal in every legislation. In the US men are not a "protected group".

Where there is a will there is a (legal) way! I imagine that a company could legally load up with women to the max, compensate with differential hiring: e.g. only hiring female programmers, compensate with lower paid male drivers/cleaners. Or use outsourcing.

I'm sure if Dorsey, Zuckerberg, Pichai etc really belived that women are underpaid vis-a-vis their contribution, they could easily make it happen. Indeed, they are now so powerful they could get their army of lobbyists to change the law.

Action speaks louder than words.

Re:Iceland becomes first country to legalise equal pay by dragonwriter on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @10:25AM (#16061711)
> Plenty of places have no problem hiring (almost) only women, e.g. kindergarden, waitresses, art galleries, medical sociologists, stewardesses.

Yes, there's plenty of kinds of jobs men don't apply for at nearly the rate women do. That's certainly not the case for programming jobs.

> In any case I doubnt this would be illegal in every legislation. In the US men are not a "protected group"

This is simply factually incorrect; in employment, sex—not just one sex—is a protected class, federally [0] and separately under most state laws, as well. About the only assymetric protected class in employment is age, where discrimination is only protected against when it is against those over 40.

[0] https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/sex.cfm

Re:Iceland becomes first country to legalise equal pay by mafribe on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @10:48AM (#16061927)
> there's plenty of kinds of jobs men don't apply for at nearly the rate women do.

There's plenty of kinds of jobs Women don't apply for at nearly the rate men do.

Re:Iceland becomes first country to legalise equal pay by dragonwriter on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @11:00AM (#16062055)
> There's plenty of kinds of jobs Women don't apply for at nearly the rate men do.

Yes, but that's not germane to the discussion.

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Re:Iceland becomes first country to legalise equal pay by dragonwriter on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @01:52PM (#16063851)
> The structural core of feminist argument patterns is

...also not germane to the present discussion, though it perhaps is relevant to some post far uphtread or off to the side somewhere.

A company adopting a policy of hiring only women for technical positions is a bright line violation of federal (and, in California, also state) employment law. The fact a number of industries that aren't tech are nearly exclusively female (largely because of applicant patterns) does not change this. The fact that some industries are male dominated, in part for similar reasons, really has nothing at all do with this one way or the other. The nature of feminist argument patterns is even more completely irrelevant.

Re:Iceland becomes first country to legalise equal pay by protomyth on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @10:48AM (#16061915)
Daycares in the USA get away with it, and, sadly, a lot of parents are very happy about it. Look at the gender % for daycares and elementary school. This is actually a rather larger problem since we are not properly providing young boys with role models.
Re:Iceland becomes first country to legalise equal pay by dragonwriter on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @11:00AM (#16062048)
> Daycares in the USA get away with it,

With a policy of hiring only women, or with being a field of mostly female solo operators without employees, with nearly 100% of applicants for places that do hire employees being female?

Because the two things aren't equivalent in the law.

Re:Iceland becomes first country to legalise equal pay by protomyth on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @11:11AM (#16062161)
By hiring only women as a policy. People overlook it, and a lot of parents don't want their children changed by a man. Plus, insurance companies mysteriously raise rates when men are on staff. My college friend started a daycare for his church and encountered all this fun, and I had to deal with some of these issues when we were running daycares (excuse me, Early Childhood Education centers) in the 90's.

I would imagine after rejection after rejection men would find something else (insurance was my friends out). It still amazes me how many industries insurance companies seem to influence the hiring in.

Re:Iceland becomes first country to legalise equal pay by ensignavenger on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @12:03PM (#16062691)
Do the insurance companies ask about the gender of a daycares staff?
Re:Iceland becomes first country to legalise equal pay by protomyth on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @01:20PM (#16063489)
The one my friend dealt with got a list so they could do their own background check, plus it was pretty obvious to the rep it was a guy asking for the quote this time as opposed to the first quote.
Re:Iceland becomes first country to legalise equal pay by yorwba on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @10:57AM (#16062026)
You may consider it "improper", but actually young boys are provided with plenty of role models, they just happen to be female.
Re:Iceland becomes first country to legalise equal pay by protomyth on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @11:14AM (#16062188)
If you reverse the sexes in your response then there would be outrage. Boys need to see men interacting with men and women to pick up on the social cues.