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Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by compumike on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @10:46AM (#16052477)
(Disclosure: I work for Triplebyte and helped publish our salary dataset recently.)

$150K is below the median base salary offer we see for senior software engineers. See https://triplebyte.com/software-engineer-salary -- with a few notes:

* This is base salary only. Total compensation is significantly higher once you include factors like equity compensation, bonuses, benefits.

* This does vary a lot with stage of company. Earlier-stage startups use more equity and less salary. We work with companies from pre-series A to public megacorp.

* This is for senior engineers. Less experienced engineers do typically earn less.

* We're fairly selective in the engineers we work with, but it's based on the abilities you demonstrate in our multiple-choice quiz and technical interview, rather than your credentials.

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Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by kriro on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @11:46AM (#16053073)
I would love to see something like "true salary" where people can enter the actual hours they work, vacation days they get and salary (+ taxation as an option). If I compare on a per hour basis and factor in vacation time quite a few good looking US salaries become a lot less attractive for say a French software developer who is working a 35h workweek. It's especially interesting if you compare "boring" development jobs to "highly innovative" ones because in boring jobs (in house J2EE etc.) you're often actually able to more or less stick to the 40h/week without much overtime.
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Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by lallysingh on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @12:17PM (#16053332)
I made total $220k/yr at ~40hrs w/4 weeks vacation a year w/base of 140k at a prior job. This was typical.
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Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by antisthenes on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @01:35PM (#16054088)
You can't just write "typical" and not explain.

Typical for what? SF? Your company? CA? For people with your level of experience?

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Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by lallysingh on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @02:38PM (#16054783)
Typical for my level of experience in tech industry in NYC.
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Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by user5994461 on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @10:13AM (#16061573)
>>> a French software developer who is working a 35h work week.

It's fairly atypical for French to work only 35h a week. I've never seen that anywhere in tech in the private sector.

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Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by alexandercrohde on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @12:21PM (#16053362)
I think this is irrelevant, because the question was AVERAGE. Personally triplebyte rejected me (as somebody who considers himself in the top 5-10% [won a math award, 1500/1600 SAT, worked at B-tier companies in SF, started coding around 8]).

[https://github.com/anfurny/scalaRiddle]

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Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by overcast on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @10:59AM (#16052580)
Thanks for the response, like you said, you're very selective, and this is for only senior roles. Of course everyone is not a senior, the vast majority I suspect.
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Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by compumike on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @11:08AM (#16052662)
You're welcome. I can't share the numbers, but I believe most software engineers are eventually operating at the senior engineer level within under a decade of professional engineering experience.
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Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by Veelox on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @11:50AM (#16053110)
Senior in this context often means >5 years. So if you are 30 you typically count as senior. I believe ~50% of my >10k coworkers are senior or above.
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Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by bradknowles on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @02:45AM (#16059281)
So, if you hit Senior at 5 years, what’s after that?

What about the guy with 25+ years of experience?

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Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by Veelox on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @04:17PM (#16065246)
The other comment is correct. Another way to view it is at "Senior" you are able to keep yourself productive indefinitely. It is similar to journeyman in the trades but sounds fancier.
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Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by user5994461 on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @10:18AM (#16061635)
Lead, Staff, Principal, Director, Vice President, CTO...
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