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Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by BoorishBears on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @10:23AM (#16052315)
I think at some point it comes down to skill of talent too.

Most locales also have companies that know that the best talent can go to the Bay Area and make $150,000 and much more, so they offer salaries that are way above normal for the area, but competitive to Bay Area salaries.

But if you’re not on that side of the talent scale (or not perceived as being on that side of it), your salary ends up being in line with your locales average salary across multiple industries for “mid level job requiring a bachelors degree”

Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by overcast on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @10:33AM (#16052378)
Sure, but every single person going to the Bay Area isn't the "best talent", that's just not even realistic. So yes, talent demands big bucks, but it's still a bell curve, and that peak is below $150,000
Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by BoorishBears on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @10:43AM (#16052456)
I’m not implying everyone is the best talent and making 150k, quite the opposite.

But I definitely don’t agreee the peak is below 150k...

Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by overcast on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @10:46AM (#16052473)
I mean ryandrake above just stated glassdoor and salary.com showing $110,000 as the medium. So below $150k.
Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by sjg007 on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @11:31AM (#16052915)
This histogram says that the mode is less than <150k too which is the peak.

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/san-jose-software-enginee...

Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by BoorishBears on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @11:39AM (#16052986)
I see a bar at 159k, and Glassdoor is seems to also be separating by variants of the title "Software Engineer", like "Lead Software Engineer" and "Software Engineer II" which could change results (not sure that those are subsets of Software Engineer in their system)
Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by infinite8s on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @03:47PM (#16055482)
In addition Glassdoor likely has a self-reported sampling issue.
Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by BoorishBears on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @11:11AM (#16052693)
Median being 111,000 doesn’t say anything about the peak...
Re:Basecamp doesn’t employ anyone in SF, but now we pay ever... by BoorishBears on Tuesday January 02, 2018 @02:46PM (#16054881)
People are downvoting without looking at the graph themselves. The graph is not a bell curve and is skewed, it's median isn't at the peak of the graph.