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Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by TheCoreh on Thursday December 21, 2017 @01:09PM (#15981230)
The Mr. Robot thing was not "malware". It was an easter egg, just like about:mozilla. You may say it was poor taste on Mozilla's part, since it was essentially a paid-for promotional tie-in with a TV show, and I would probably agree with you. But it did not damage anyone's computer, compromise any data or do anything that could put it on the "Malware" category.

Something similar that noone has complained about are the Android version names which are promotional tie-ins: Kit Kat and Oreo. Mozilla's biggest screw up IMO was failing to disclose properly what was going on.

Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by Ajedi32 on Thursday December 21, 2017 @01:12PM (#15981264)
> it was essentially a paid-for promotional tie-in

From what I recall, it wasn't paid-for either.

> we developed an unpaid collaboration to engage our users and viewers of the show in a new way

Source: https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/update-looking-glass-add/

Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by bluetwo on Thursday December 21, 2017 @01:49PM (#15981626)
If they didn't get paid, why on earth did they do it?
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by teilo on Thursday December 21, 2017 @02:27PM (#15981975)
Not all incentives are direct financial incentives. It's free marketing. It increases market penetration. It encourages people who only use Chrome to try Firefox.

It was absolutely the wrong thing to do, but it's not like they stood nothing to gain from it.

Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by bluetwo on Thursday December 21, 2017 @04:33PM (#15982984)
Is this based on any fact or is it hyperbole?
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by teilo on Thursday December 21, 2017 @05:01PM (#15983215)
I don't thing that word means what you think it means.
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by bluetwo on Thursday December 21, 2017 @10:19PM (#15985022)
I'm just asking. It seems like a question that has an actual answer. Someone did it. Someone knows why it happened.
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by bugmen0t on Thursday December 21, 2017 @02:00PM (#15981735)
Someone actually that it was fun and valuable. Shocking, I know.
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by paulryanrogers on Thursday December 21, 2017 @02:14PM (#15981869)
^thought
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by QAPereo on Thursday December 21, 2017 @04:12PM (#15982806)
Of all possible explanations, that is the one I suspect is most divorced from reality.
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by mintplant on Thursday December 21, 2017 @03:45PM (#15982576)
People who wanted to solve the Mr. Robot ARG/puzzle had to download Firefox to complete the part of it the add-on enabled.
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by ben174 on Thursday December 21, 2017 @04:15PM (#15982825)
I think it was the opposite of paid. They wanted to draw the Mr. Robot crowd to Firefox.
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by Swizec on Thursday December 21, 2017 @02:01PM (#15981747)
for the lulz?

Hackers gonna hack. In the “let’s build cool stuff because we can” way.

Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by emveeoh on Thursday December 21, 2017 @02:35PM (#15982045)
It seems they wanted press. Well, they got it...
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by micro-ram on Thursday December 21, 2017 @02:51PM (#15982215)
and lost a lot of trust as a result.
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by 794CD01 on Thursday December 21, 2017 @02:01PM (#15981744)
They assumed their user base has dwindled to only the kind of anticorporate hacker wannabes that watch Mr. Robot.
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by muraiki on Thursday December 21, 2017 @03:01PM (#15982307)
Note that the advertisement was for a TV show _owned by a company that helped destroy net neutrality_: Comcast. How am I supposed to "Join Mozilla in defending it" (from mozilla.org) when they are going to work for their own enemies?
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by Insanity on Thursday December 21, 2017 @03:38PM (#15982534)
That's an interesting aspect I did not consider. (I had no idea it was a TV show owned by comcast)
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by syshum on Thursday December 21, 2017 @01:19PM (#15981351)
>>Mozilla's biggest screw up IMO was failing to disclose properly what was going on.

That was not the only issue

1. Failure to Disclose it before distribution

2. Failure to Properly name or provide any support context to the Add In.

3. Using the "Studies" System designed to improve the technology and advance the web browser for this Adware "Easter egg" not really an Easter egg addin

4. Failure to Publicly Comment about it until a full 72 hours after concerns were raised

5. Deleting and Hiding Bug Reports about the Addin in Bugzilla

6. Failure to adequately respond, apologize, or explain why and how the Studies system was used to distribute this Adware, There blog post so far is woefully inadequate.

7. Failure to disclose what steps are being taken immediately to ensure the Studies system is not abused in this manner in the future

Should I go on? There were many many many failures here, which are compounded by the many other failures Mozilla has had over the last few years.

Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by kevin_b_er on Thursday December 21, 2017 @01:39PM (#15981548)
Then you can go back to chrome or chromium, both of which Google has pushed a binary plugin to that records voice in the past.

Debian had to raise a storm over it and turned into a compile-time only option to not get the microphone listening plugin on your chromium install.

Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by wwweston on Thursday December 21, 2017 @06:25PM (#15983881)
Speaking for myself, I'm not going back to Chrome over this alone -- I'm pleased with how FF57 handles and enough of Mozilla's positive efforts over time that I'm unlikely to let this event define them if they take steps to make sure it's an anomaly.

But every one of these things seems like legit issues that I'd like to see made an anomaly, and it's conceivable that if Mozilla isn't able to make it crystal clear that they know how to make things go that way, Chrome might well be the right choice.

Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by eckza on Thursday December 21, 2017 @03:29PM (#15982473)
Fine, but that doesn't make the points in the comment you're replying to any less valid. That's... not how it works.
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by syshum on Thursday December 21, 2017 @04:02PM (#15982709)
I never left FF, I have been using FF since the very first Beta Releases, I have been using Mozilla Browsers since before FF was even a concept

I support Mozilla on Ideological grounds and it is said they are dropping their Ideology in favor of a pure commercial company.

Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by fatwa on Thursday December 21, 2017 @01:22PM (#15981383)
And enabling the "studies" thing without my permission, which they did.
Re:Chrome is Not the Standard by cjhanks on Thursday December 21, 2017 @04:51PM (#15983123)
The real problem imho is that Mozilla hired a wild fox to become its CEO. Before becoming responsible for guidance and stewardship of a free and open internet, the fox primarily spent its time chasing mice and sneaking into chicken coops.