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Re:German Kindergarten Campouts Test Helicopter Parents (2015) by lispm on Sunday December 17, 2017 @10:21AM (#15946056)
Brush up your German and see this recent report of a day in a Waldkindergarten... Kindergarten in the forest - which is a popular concept in Germany.

http://www.ardmediathek.de/tv/Landesschau-Baden-Württemberg/...

The video speaks for itself: It shows a day in the Waldkindergarten of the Sonnenkinder, the 'sun children'. A woman from Canada has her son for the second day there. Another father reports that his son made problems at home and here is busy at any weather. When every child arrived, they walk 20 minutes together to the Waldtheater - the Forest Theater - the green living room. The first group made fire, already - a daily ritual. They also get something to do with various tools. One of the youngest is 2 y 9m and has somebody looking after him. The small children see it as a magical place. It's not allowed to harm the nature. At the end of the day every child has made its own personal experience, they walk back together and are looking forward to the next day in the forest.

Re:German Kindergarten Campouts Test Helicopter Parents (2015) by Symbiote on Sunday December 17, 2017 @05:38PM (#15948080)
They're also very popular in Denmark, and the rest of Scandinavia.

Description in English: http://denmark.dk/en/meet-the-danes/forest-preschools

And a small documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkiij9dJfcw

An equally significant difference for me, coming from the UK, is that there are men working in childcare. My window overlooks a street where a lot of nursery and primary school groups walk past on their way to the park, and my guess is half the adults are men. I was 9 years old in England when I first had a male teacher.

Re:German Kindergarten Campouts Test Helicopter Parents (2015) by eru on Sunday December 17, 2017 @11:10PM (#15949348)
I can see that hanging out in the forest and building fires etc, would definitely attract me (as a guy) more towards childcare than having to be bored indoors all year.
Re:German Kindergarten Campouts Test Helicopter Parents (2015) by King-Aaron on Monday December 18, 2017 @02:18AM (#15950028)
This is why I think there is strong value in preserving organisations such as the Scouts and Girl Guides. Kids should definitely have these experiences - both boys and girls.

I'm a bit biased, as I was in the scouts for 17 years... In Australia that was Joey Scouts, Cub Scouts, Scouts, Venturer Scouts and Rovers. Theres a group for basically every age.

I feel that years of predatory leaders may have irreversibly damaged the reputation of the organisation though.

Re:German Kindergarten Campouts Test Helicopter Parents (2015) by chucksmash on Sunday December 17, 2017 @02:26PM (#15947190)
For those who don't feel up to brushing off their German, the NYT also had an article about this in May:

https://nytimes.com/2017/05/18/t-magazine/germany-forest-kin...

Re:German Kindergarten Campouts Test Helicopter Parents (2015) by rumcajz on Sunday December 17, 2017 @01:05PM (#15946818)
This is a thing in Switzerland as well. The waldkrippen are all over the place. It looks like it may be a traditional thing, but I don't know what the history of it really is.

I should also say that at the age of 4 kids are expected to go to kindergarden on their own.

Re:German Kindergarten Campouts Test Helicopter Parents (2015) by Fnoord on Sunday December 17, 2017 @03:45PM (#15947556)
Non-native German speakers can probably translate it with services such as Google Translate.

The German Wikipedia entry for Waldkindergarten [1] says its originally from Scandinavia btw:

"Der Waldkindergarten oder Naturkindergarten ist eine Form des Kindergartens, die aus Skandinavien stammt. Im Waldkindergarten erfahren Kinder im Alter zwischen drei und sechs Jahren (teilweise bereits unter drei Jahren) Erziehung, Bildung und Betreuung. Die meisten Aktivitäten finden außerhalb fester Gebäude statt, meistens im Wald."

[1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldkindergarten