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Re:Firefox is on a slippery slope by amelius on Saturday December 16, 2017 @04:28PM (#15942231)
I think we should stop writing code, and start thinking about the future, and write draft specs for an open web, and build a platform to discuss those specs.

Mozilla is great because they have good management, not just because they have great coders. The rest of us should take an example if this. This means that we should stop scratching our itches, and do some real thinking and have discussions before engaging in our next side project.

Re:Firefox is on a slippery slope by em3rgent0rdr on Saturday December 16, 2017 @04:45PM (#15942318)
> "start thinking about the future, and write draft specs for an open web..."

There has been tons of attempts at this. Maybe we should start examining why these attempts have failed to succeed.

Re:Firefox is on a slippery slope by sparkie on Saturday December 16, 2017 @05:38PM (#15942623)
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” - Fuller
Re:Firefox is on a slippery slope by krapp on Saturday December 16, 2017 @06:15PM (#15942831)
One possible reason is that a truly open web would include things advocates for an open web don't want, such as advertising and commercial interests, or javascript.
Re:Firefox is on a slippery slope by em3rgent0rdr on Saturday December 16, 2017 @07:17PM (#15943088)
Excellent point. I fear many attempts at the open web failed because they were a little too anti-capitalist or FOSS-purist and ignored basic economic realities.
Re:Firefox is on a slippery slope by ethagnawl on Saturday December 16, 2017 @05:34PM (#15942605)
> they have good management

In light of recent events, this would seem to be up for debate.