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Re:Norway switches off FM radio, but a station is defying go... by vhold on Friday December 15, 2017 @11:58AM (#15933148)
On the flip side was getting busy signals because of there not being enough capacity somewhere between you and the person you were calling, and also cross-talk issues, where you could hear other peoples' phone conversations on your line.
Re:Norway switches off FM radio, but a station is defying go... by interfixus on Friday December 15, 2017 @12:03PM (#15933172)
Absolutely. But the natural, two-ways, un-echoed flow of conversation, just as if you were talking to someone in the room - we have lost that, and it's a major loss.
Re:Norway switches off FM radio, but a station is defying go... by jackhack on Friday December 15, 2017 @01:00PM (#15933672)
For me it's the slurring compression artifacts as much as the lag that makes cell phone conversations, web meetings, etc. inferior. Local digital cell phone calls mimic the old cross-country long distance analog calls of yesterday in terms of delay.

w.r.t broadcast video, the eye/mind can still pick out an image from a static-filled snowy image, but digital artifacts from low/poor signal result in freeze-frames and garbled mess.

Summary: Digital. When it's good, it's very good. But when it's bad, it's awful.

Re:Norway switches off FM radio, but a station is defying go... by lostlogin on Friday December 15, 2017 @01:08PM (#15933735)
This is it exactly. Calls though the landline failed rather more gracefully.
Re:Norway switches off FM radio, but a station is defying go... by vhold on Friday December 15, 2017 @12:56PM (#15933638)
Agreed, heck, I still lament low latency dial-up shell access. Even at 9600 baud it was still more responsive and felt like using a computer in the same room. Chatting with somebody like that, in talk/ytalk/etc, where you could see their every keystroke was a totally different experience because you could even get a vague sense of their thinking process through their pauses and edits.
Re:Norway switches off FM radio, but a station is defying go... by dsr_ on Friday December 15, 2017 @01:13PM (#15933781)
I was using a 9600 baud connection about an hour ago. It sucks rocks. You can see the ascii-menu updating. Everything flickers. (Serial console access to a server, if you really care.)

If you run ytalk on a modern machine, it doesn't flicker, but you can still get every keystroke, because that's the protocol.

Re:Norway switches off FM radio, but a station is defying go... by BenjiWiebe on Friday December 15, 2017 @11:49PM (#15937768)
I have a server with ntalk for a few friends and it is my favorite method of non face-to-face communication.
Re:Norway switches off FM radio, but a station is defying go... by DougN7 on Friday December 15, 2017 @01:40PM (#15933979)
I still get the busy signal calling into the Seattle area from the Midwest once every 4-5 months or so when it's clear the other end wasn't on the phone. I'm not sure I got that before. So I wouldn't say the problem is solved, though the scale of communications has surely increased.
Re:Norway switches off FM radio, but a station is defying go... by gozur88 on Friday December 15, 2017 @07:44PM (#15936586)
Cross-talk was an analog problem related to center frequency drift on muxed lines. As soon as phone companies put in ATM networks it went away.