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Re:English rivers polluted by neonicotinoids, first tests re... by damal on Friday December 15, 2017 @04:08AM (#15930553)
Different countries have different priorities. That's the good thing about sovereignty. Don't like your current government's ideas? Replace them at the next election. On the other hand, you don't like the EU's ideas? Um... good luck with that. Just be glad that the EU's been relatively benign so far.
Re:English rivers polluted by neonicotinoids, first tests re... by titzer on Friday December 15, 2017 @04:49AM (#15930717)
Yeah! Don't like your country's air pollution controls? Just move next door! Problem solved.

Sorry to mock you, but environmental concerns affect us all. Earth is one giant connected system; everything eventually influences everything else. It's just a matter of the latency of the connections. Pollution is something we need to tackle globally, because many types of pollutants don't break down naturally or necessarily become less dangerous. On the contrary, many continue to accumulate and are concentrated by natural processes into places where water drains--this is why we find these things in rivers and lakes first, and in the highest concentrations. They are everywhere, tho.

Re:English rivers polluted by neonicotinoids, first tests re... by wav-part on Friday December 15, 2017 @05:07AM (#15930791)
Strawman. Anti-BigGovernment != Anti-Environment.
Re:English rivers polluted by neonicotinoids, first tests re... by orf on Friday December 15, 2017 @05:11AM (#15930809)
Sure, but in reality those go hand in hand.
Re:English rivers polluted by neonicotinoids, first tests re... by wav-part on Friday December 15, 2017 @05:32AM (#15930890)
Lets say I disagree with EU-enfoced regulation ? Do you count it as anti-environement ? What if agree to same regulation if enfoced by UK ?

Point is, its about who enforcing it not what. If even that does not fix your observations, I would like to request some proof/citations.

Re:English rivers polluted by neonicotinoids, first tests re... by tolien on Friday December 15, 2017 @05:47AM (#15930933)
The EU doesn’t enforce the regulations anyway, member states do through their respective agencies. In this case, the Environment Agency and/or Scottish EPA will have responsibility.
Re:English rivers polluted by neonicotinoids, first tests re... by adrianN on Friday December 15, 2017 @04:22AM (#15930598)
I think my chances of changing my country's government if I don't like it are pretty much the same as changing the EU.
Re:English rivers polluted by neonicotinoids, first tests re... by pbhjpbhj on Friday December 15, 2017 @08:19AM (#15931569)
In the UK, I think chances of getting workers rights, privacy, consumer rights, environmental issues, etc., passed in the EU is far far greater than getting any such thing passed by the Tories.

That's entirely expected, the EU as a whole is more liberal, more green, and more socialist than the Tories.

Re:English rivers polluted by neonicotinoids, first tests re... by Moru on Friday December 15, 2017 @04:26AM (#15930615)
It's the difference of (1/country population) and (1/511,805,088). So slightly higher chance changing your countrys government. But you have the added bonus of having the same language, good luck with that in the EU... :-)
Re:English rivers polluted by neonicotinoids, first tests re... by Scarblac on Friday December 15, 2017 @05:07AM (#15930793)
You personally can't change your government, you only have one vote. Many voters together can change it.

That's not really different in the EU.

Re:English rivers polluted by neonicotinoids, first tests re... by giobox on Friday December 15, 2017 @04:32AM (#15930644)
> Just be glad that the EU's been relatively benign so far.

The creation of free movement of people, goods, services and capital across 28 States and creating a common currency used by many of them is arguably not “benign”.

For avoidance of doubt I’m in no way expressing an opinion on the merits of these - simply that it is not benign in the sense of having done nothing.

Re:English rivers polluted by neonicotinoids, first tests re... by pjc50 on Friday December 15, 2017 @04:48AM (#15930713)
I wonder what your opinion is of the free movement of people, goods, services and capital across 48 states?
Re:English rivers polluted by neonicotinoids, first tests re... by kybernetikos on Friday December 15, 2017 @04:42AM (#15930682)
Those things sound fantastic.
Re:English rivers polluted by neonicotinoids, first tests re... by kybernetikos on Friday December 15, 2017 @05:32AM (#15930892)
> that it is not benign in the sense of having done nothing.

I think that you're using the word in a pretty unusual way there, perhaps inspired by medical usage. 'benign' comes from the latin meaning 'good', and has the same root as 'benefactor', 'beneficial', 'benefit' or 'bonus'. In its nonmedical sense it almost always refers to something being good, not having negligible effect.