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Re:New Model Warns About Crispr Gene Drives in the Wild by colordrops on Thursday December 14, 2017 @11:52PM (#15929734)
How are you so sure that disease vector mosquitos don't play an important role in the ecosystem? I would posit that predicting ecosystem outcomes is no easier than predicting weather.
Re:New Model Warns About Crispr Gene Drives in the Wild by tzahola on Friday December 15, 2017 @03:41AM (#15930463)
>How are you so sure that disease vector mosquitos don't play an important role in the ecosystem?

They actually do. They protect the environment by culling local pests like humans.

Re:New Model Warns About Crispr Gene Drives in the Wild by unmole on Friday December 15, 2017 @12:16AM (#15929812)
Only a handful of mosquito species transmit human diseases. Other non-harmful species can fill their ecological niche.
Re:New Model Warns About Crispr Gene Drives in the Wild by trhway on Friday December 15, 2017 @06:39AM (#15931128)
>Other non-harmful species can fill their ecological niche.

do you mean the niche of malaria transmitter? I suppose it wouldn't be that hard for another species of mosquito to become a transmitter.

Anyway, out of curiosity i once spent some time correlating genetically modified mosquito releases with the modern Zika outbreaks (there weren't Zika outbreaks before 2007 according to WHO, only like 14 separate cases) - the Zika outbreaks started in 2007 and for the most of them it was possible to find information that there were a release of those mosquito in the area of the outbreak 1-3 years before the outbreak (in the case of Gabon 2007 outbreak it was those mosquito development and testing in previous years on an island off the cost of Gabon. Another 2007 outbreak - Yap island - also seems being a testing ground in the years leading to the outbreak).

Re:New Model Warns About Crispr Gene Drives in the Wild by colordrops on Friday December 15, 2017 @02:12AM (#15930174)
Do you know what connections those handful of mosquitos have to various aspects of the ecosystem other than transmitting human diseases?
Re:New Model Warns About Crispr Gene Drives in the Wild by rdl on Friday December 15, 2017 @02:43AM (#15930278)
I don’t care. Malaria and dengue are sufficiently bad that I’d take the risk.

This has been studied, though. No animal only eats mosquitoes, and I’d only start with a few species (but likely expand to all of them.)

Re:New Model Warns About Crispr Gene Drives in the Wild by ben_w on Friday December 15, 2017 @04:27AM (#15930620)
Nothing is sufficiently bad to not care. Caring is the only way you can even tell if there is a risk, if you’re playing with fire, if there is a chain of causality that leads right back to you.

DDT was supposed to be a risk-free way of killing mosquitoes. Nobody knew the side effect existed.

Re:New Model Warns About Crispr Gene Drives in the Wild by petters on Friday December 15, 2017 @03:14AM (#15930364)
Completely agree. Even if it would be really bad for the ecosystem (it would likely have little impact), the benefits are so very vast out would be worth it.

This is an example of score insensitivity. How many humans die each year of malaria? If this was in Europe or America we would already have done it.

Re:New Model Warns About Crispr Gene Drives in the Wild by F_r_k on Friday December 15, 2017 @02:49AM (#15930298)
I'm sorry but that is a bit ignorant on your part. Ecosystems and ecosystem services should not be underestimated. You could have a much bigger impact that you could think of.
Re:New Model Warns About Crispr Gene Drives in the Wild by senand on Friday December 15, 2017 @02:47AM (#15930293)
References, please? I would be surprised if mosquitoes don't play any role in the ecosystem, honestly.
Re:New Model Warns About Crispr Gene Drives in the Wild by rdl on Friday December 15, 2017 @06:12AM (#15931019)
Re:New Model Warns About Crispr Gene Drives in the Wild by bryanlarsen on Friday December 15, 2017 @07:06AM (#15931228)
Of course they do. They just have almost perfect substitutes that would quickly take their place, the non-disease carrying mosquito species.