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Re:An epic treatise on scheduling, bug tracking, and triage by apenwarr on Thursday December 14, 2017 @12:27PM (#15924234)
I think we agree here, except on definitions. To me, potential "methods" are the list of things you describe: taxes, classrooms, teachers, home life, baseball bats. And also the ones I described: teach to the test, fraudulent scoring.

A manager that just says "teachers will be evaluated based on their students' standardized test scores" will get nothing useful, because they did not provide a method, and the teachers aren't empowered to solve their problems in a productive way.

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Re:An epic treatise on scheduling, bug tracking, and triage by peterwwillis on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:52PM (#15926911)
> A manager that just says "teachers will be evaluated based on their students' standardized test scores" will get nothing useful, because they did not provide a method

There is no method for a teacher to solve those problems. It's a systemic issue.

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Re:An epic treatise on scheduling, bug tracking, and triage by amw on Thursday December 14, 2017 @07:06PM (#15928613)
He didn't say anything that was contrary to that. Note that it's the "manager" that didn't "provide a method" in his framing, and note that "manager" is a shorthand for "the teacher's boss, the school board that created the policies the teacher's boss follows, the federal/state governing bodies that created the legislation that governs the school board's decisions, etc etc"
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