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Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by dragonwriter on Thursday December 14, 2017 @09:05AM (#15922303)
> Why pay $2000 a month when you have the whole country you could live in for much less?

Because people who are food insecure don't have savings to relocate, or the ability to take the income they have with them, generally.

> I grew up in Lincoln, Nebraska. I'd suggest that these people move there

Lincoln has a population of 250,000; there are, per the article, 720,000 food-insecure people in Silicon Valley (and with California’s CoL-based poverty rate of 15%, ~4.5 million poor in California.) Aside from the previously mentioned considerations, that suggestion wouldn't be viable for making even a noticeable dent in the problem.

> However, I find whenever I suggest that, people act like if they move there they will be lynched - as if the place is a primitive wasteland inhabited by backwards rednecks carrying pitchforks.

While not necessarily addressing Lincoln specifically, that's (while perhaps exaggerated) pretty consistent, at least for the non-whites overrepresented in Silicon Valley’s needy, consistent with what non-white (and white, the though it usually bugs them less) travellers have consistently told me: their worst experiences of in-your-face, constant racial/ethnic discrimination and tension in the US are almost always in the Midwest, both white v. non-white and between non-white groups.

> isn't boredom good if you want to raise a family?

Not really. There might be some things that are good that very loosely correlate with boredom, but boredom itself is bad.

Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by taway20171214 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @09:17AM (#15922367)
> their worst experiences of in-your-face, constant racial/ethnic discrimination and tension in the US are almost always in the Midwest

i'm asian american.

here's what life is like somewhere other than maybe 3 or 4 cities in the US:

1. constantly explaining to people why i am not white (where i'm from, where my parents are from, why my last name is what it is [it's anglo])

2. children are constantly getting the 'eyes pulled back' and other racist names/gestures at school, and all the adults (teachers/admins) think its hilarious too (it's just a joke! don't you love being the butt of jokes? why can't you just let everyone make fun of you all day and take it silently?)

3. name-calling 'chink', 'gook', etc are normal occurrences, not exceptional events.

4. the general feeling that nobody thinks you're really american. i.e. when discussing whichever asian country is in the news today they'll say "no offense".

5. oftentimes being ignored by people, even when you walk right up to them and ask them a question. for example when shopping in a store.

6. hyperawarneness of the hollywood situation (in tv and movies white people = gods, everyone else = a literal joke)

7. limited cuisine that you grew up with (although this one is changing)

basically it's just non-stop suffering. that's why everything is cheap in the midwest. it fucking sucks unless you are the 25% of the population that its designed for.

quite frankly if i had kids, i'd rather be STRUGGLING in california than outright RICH in the midwest, because i don't think you can be rich enough to actually buy your kids a good enough life to make up for racism. it's borderline child abuse.

the kicker of course is not only do i experience this kind of stuff in i.e. michigan, people visiting from the midwest do this to me in my own home city.

Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by rgscg on Thursday December 14, 2017 @10:20AM (#15922896)
I am also Asian American. I spent the first 20 years of my life in an area of the US where I was the only Asian in the entire school.

2. I can count the times this happened in 20 years on one hand. 3. Same as #2. 5. Never experienced this at all.

Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by SauciestGNU on Thursday December 14, 2017 @09:55AM (#15922668)
Oh my god yes. I grew up in a mixed race household in Michigan (still happy in my little corner here), but the absurdity of how non-white people are treated in the more rural areas of the state, and even the more conservative urban areas, is just shameful.

That's not to say you can't find good places in the Midwest, you just have to shop around to find an educated cosmopolitan community. But the racism here is out of hand and I don't think white people are generally attuned to just how bad it is.

Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by zzzzzzzza on Thursday December 14, 2017 @10:24AM (#15922935)
"no offense" doesn't mean that they think you're not american, even though it could mean that, similar to "where are you from". I'll grant you tv/movies, though that is undeniably getting better. I grew up in a town literally called "white settlement", conservative suburban but semi rural texas, most of my friends were asian and while I don't think they NEVER heard the word chink, it was never in a threatening or even (as far as I observed) bullying (i.e. directed at them) way - alot of the kids in public school have an EXTREMELY rough way of speaking (they're barely able to communicate without expletives). All that said, there's some things you didn't mention - a lot (but not all) of my asian dude friends had a bad time with dating for instance, and sometimes some of the teachers would be unable to tell them apart, etc..
Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by SauciestGNU on Thursday December 14, 2017 @10:58AM (#15923249)
For my family it's not so much racial slurs as the constant question "what are you" because rural white people aren't used to seeing mixed race Asians. The question is dehumanizing, especially when you hear it your whole damn life.
Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by kodablah on Thursday December 14, 2017 @10:58AM (#15923243)
White Settlement is definitely not semi-rural IMO compared to how many towns in TX are rural and semi-rural. However, having also grown up in a similar style area just west of there, I concur with not hearing anything like GP mentioned. It's unfortunate that GP had bad stereotyping/racist experiences, but it's fortunate that they visited every single city and are able to make these claims about all but 3 or 4 without doing their own stereotyping.
Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by zzzzzzzza on Thursday December 14, 2017 @10:18PM (#15929451)
the town itself is definitely suburban, there were horses outside the high school tho, and the way UIL lines were drawn we were grouped with a bunch of actually rural districts.
Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by taway20171214 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @11:52AM (#15923873)
> a lot (but not all) of my asian dude friends had a bad time with dating for instance

i was mainly talking about raising existing families, but yeah, this is true also. basically if you're not in the top 5-10% financially and physically as an asian guy, just forget about having a romantic life.

Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by jdtang13 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:46PM (#15926844)
If you really feel this strongly, then I would suggest you raise your kids in Hong Kong or Singapore -- any sort of Anglophonic East Asian city would be good. The situation of Asian-Americans will likely not get better in the future.
Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by workthrowaway27 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @10:56AM (#15923225)
You realize he wasn't saying everyone should move to Lincoln, right? There are hundreds of other potential places these people could move.
Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by Helmet on Thursday December 14, 2017 @10:25AM (#15922957)
> Because people who are food insecure don't have savings to relocate, or the ability to take the income they have with them, generally.

B.S.

If they cannot afford it, they can move. My parents moved, I have moved, it f'ing sucks, but it's completely possible and feasible and the responsible thing to do.

Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by dragonwriter on Thursday December 14, 2017 @01:12PM (#15924770)
It's feasible and responsible in some circumstances (e.g., you are comfortable with savings, then your income collapses and you have no near term prospects, but you have a working vehicle, a destination with better prospects, and savings to cover costs during the move and in the gal between relocation and securing a job or at least establishing local benefit eligibility. (Or, in place of savings, softer assets like a social network that includes people willing to provide short term assistance in the destination location, either in cash or in kind, such as a place to stay.)

If you are working but food insecure without savings or such alternative support assets, then even if the long-term prospects are better in the destination, it may not be l feasible or, even if feasible, responsible because of the transition costs.

You can't make up for starvation today with better long-term prospects.

Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by b6 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @11:09AM (#15923348)
Downvoters, please explain yourselves. Parent post is fundamentally making a statement about what is possible. If you think it is impossible, the burden is on you to explain why, considering it is possible even to escape from an actual prison, and we are talking about the possibility of escape from SV!