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Re:I went to production heaven by avs733 on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @10:02AM (#15914610)
While they are decidedly bearish on Tesla, dailykanban's analysis is worth reading. They know one thing (auto manufacturing) and they know it really well. Their comments on just how mismatched Tesla's public statements and private actions are is damning...even if it sometimes feels a bit like potshots.
Re:I went to production heaven by danvoell on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @11:45AM (#15915375)
It is very potshotish. Comparing production hell to a 75% increase in stock isn't really a fluid argument. They should stick to the manufacturing bits. Otherwise, enjoyed the read.
Re:I went to production heaven by busterarm on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @04:37PM (#15917911)
Both Bertel & Ed were writers/editors at The Truth About Cars. TTAC is a fabulous website if you're interested in the auto industry, but their perspective and target demo is mainly the automotive sales industry. Dealers and the supporting network around them.

Their anti-Tesla bias is strong and well-documented. They've had legitimate criticisms but take what they say with a grain of salt.

Re:I went to production heaven by alexasmyths on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @01:49PM (#15916421)
"Comparing production hell to a 75% increase in stock"

It highlights the degree of misinformation and hype among analysts etc.

Re:I went to production heaven by bkdbkd on Thursday December 14, 2017 @02:16AM (#15920508)
Might be more properly titled "Why this factory in China is 10x better than Tesla's" Factory. As folks have noted, not entirely off base, but not at all an article about the Volvo factory.
Re:I went to production heaven by icc97 on Thursday December 14, 2017 @08:28AM (#15922055)
The article is about a Volvo factory in China.
Re:I went to production heaven by bkdbkd on Saturday December 16, 2017 @07:50PM (#15943241)
"... that is for x reasons better than the Tesla factory", the title just doesn't let the reader know that's the angle
Re:I went to production heaven by fhood on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @11:21AM (#15915171)
I'm not making comments about the validity of the article, but I do want to point out that a quick google search of the author seems to imply that he is pretty much universally disliked.
Re:I went to production heaven by avs733 on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @11:35AM (#15915289)
Disliked doesn't mean wrong. He caught a LOT of flack for an article he wrote that was critical of the Chevy Volt, especially from GM insiders.
Re:I went to production heaven by busterarm on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @04:46PM (#15917964)
The authors (specifically, Ronnie Schreiber) that worked under Bertel also wrote multiple, glowing articles showering praise on Elio motors and basically secured them many of their preorders...
Re:I went to production heaven by stcredzero on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @12:37PM (#15915776)
How accurate is that article?
Re:I went to production heaven by sremani on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @01:32PM (#15916261)
As a 2014 Chevy Volt owner, it is far from Lemon.

Here are the most interesting Gen I volt stats (currently at 416K miles and still running strong) https://www.voltstats.net/Stats/Details/1579

Given Volt has a decent battery, I would bet an average volt will have a life time around 300K. Its has its shortcoming in terms passenger space and styling, but its a work horse!

Re:I went to production heaven by Shivetya on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @01:03PM (#15916018)
if it is the 2010 article it was a bit ridiculous by bringing up every anti bailout reference possible to take away from a vehicle and comparing it to other cars when it was really a first of its kind; an EV with a REX.

I own a 2nd generation Volt and love it, never really cared for the styling or interior of the first generation but mostly because the range of the first attempt fell short of my needs. My current Volt solves both my problems, I have the ability to go all electric on my commute of 54 miles round trip if not 10 more in summer. I can go any long distance trip I want and not worry about being stranded or having to wait an hour or more for a recharge even 200 less miles.

https://dailykanban.com/2010/07/g-m-s-electric-lemon/

Re:I went to production heaven by cmrdporcupine on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @09:10PM (#15919454)
Wow, I remember this article at the time.. But what a profoundly even more misinformed article in retrospect. Looking at the Gen 2 Volt, the total sales numbers for both generations, the quality of the car, the fact that it put GM ahead in terms of many others R&D on battery vehicles... What a foolish article.
Re:I went to production heaven by cmrdporcupine on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @07:24PM (#15918978)
Very inaccurate. The 1st generation Volt has a reputation of having very high quality. Especially compared to other GM cars.

The 2nd generation it remains to be seen. Mine seems good so far.

Re:I went to production heaven by fhood on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @01:04PM (#15916031)
I guess what I was implying is that he is not known for his professionalism. In fact he primarily known for his lack there of.
Re:I went to production heaven by zardo on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @11:35AM (#15915284)
Google search results are not designed to be a representative sample of opinion.
Re:I went to production heaven by fhood on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @11:53AM (#15915422)
Sure, I just meant to imply that the article should be read with the knowledge that the author is pretty controversial.
Re:I went to production heaven by empath75 on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @01:04PM (#15916030)
It’s easy for a determined interest to throw up enough smoke to make anything seem controversial — like evolution.

Some controversial things are genuinely problematic but not all of them are.

Re:I went to production heaven by jumsdogpetter on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @12:39PM (#15915788)
Repeating truths usually does get someone upset.
Re:I went to production heaven by dv_dt on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @01:02PM (#15916012)
So does reporting untruths. That people are upset isn't a measure of truth either way.
Re:I went to production heaven by jumsdogpetter on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @02:51PM (#15917009)
So dozens of plant workers all have more or less the same told experience about the human indignities of labor in Tesla facilities but the untruth goes "either way"? That doesn't seem honest of you.
Re:I went to production heaven by dv_dt on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @06:02PM (#15918528)
I wasn't trying to say that the article itself was true or untrue - just that if people were upset about the reporting, that doesn't say anything about the accuracy of the article one way or the other.