A Las Vegas Resort Using Microwaves to Keep Guns Out

Re:A Las Vegas Resort Using Microwaves to Keep Guns Out by mikestew on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @02:08PM (#15908449)

My personal experience says that confrontations over minor shit happens at a non-trivial frequency where alcohol is served. Throw in poor alcohol-induced judgement with firearms, and someone’s going to feel compelled to settle it by waving a gun around. Odds are, no shots will be fired but accidents do happen when you’re drunk. Now, it’s not like this happens all the time, but I’ve seen it more than once with someone whipping out a firearm, and plenty of times over the decades where it ends up in a fight. Keep in mind this is all anecdotal, and somewhat specific to certain parts of the U. S.

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Re:A Las Vegas Resort Using Microwaves to Keep Guns Out by LyndsySimon on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @02:19PM (#15908566)

I urge you to consider selection bias here. I suspect there isn't significant overlap in the following populations:

* people who submit to background checks, fees, and hassle to obtain a carry permit

* people who carry firearms while intoxicated

* people who are inclined to settle an argument with a firearm

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Re:A Las Vegas Resort Using Microwaves to Keep Guns Out by mikestew on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @02:31PM (#15908687)

I urge you to consider selection bias here

Consider it? Hell, I openly admitted to it.

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Re:A Las Vegas Resort Using Microwaves to Keep Guns Out by LyndsySimon on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @02:43PM (#15908793)

Fair enough :)

My own biases include that I often hear people implying that someone with a carry permit is more likely to use a firearm in a crime than someone who does not. That saddens me, and I do my best to try and challenge that idea (gently, in a professional manner) whenever I can.

It looks like I jumped the gun a bit here :)

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Re:A Las Vegas Resort Using Microwaves to Keep Guns Out by chc on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @03:23PM (#15909116)

I would expect that the majority of the latter two groups are also in the first one, and very close to 100% of the last group is in the second one. Do you not think so?

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Re:A Las Vegas Resort Using Microwaves to Keep Guns Out by LyndsySimon on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @03:30PM (#15909177)

No, especially not the first and second. It's extremely uncommon for someone with a carry permit to consume alcohol at all while carrying, much less do so in public and to the point of intoxication.

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Re:A Las Vegas Resort Using Microwaves to Keep Guns Out by chc on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @04:59PM (#15909916)

You appear to be disagreeing with the opposite of what I said. The question isn't "What percentage of people with a carry permit would get drunk while carrying?" but "What percentage of people who go out drinking while carrying a gun have a carry permit?"

Those two answers can be completely different. For comparison, it is extremely uncommon for a human (group A) to be in my immediate family (group B), but everyone who is in my immediate family (group B) is a human (group A).

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Re:A Las Vegas Resort Using Microwaves to Keep Guns Out by CompanionCuuube on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @03:45PM (#15909298)

I would expect that you're right. Someone who is likely to do the second and third likely would not have the clean record needed for the first.

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