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Re:Net Neutrality’s Holes in Europe May Offer Peek at Future... by kaplun on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @08:42AM (#15905476)
In France, the main mobile operator Orange, offers you tethering only as an option to be additionally paid on top of your data plan. They basically monitor the connection to check if your mobile is forwarding packages and do mitm in order to display advertisement about the additional paid option.
Re:Net Neutrality’s Holes in Europe May Offer Peek at Future... by Neracked on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @09:48AM (#15905877)
This seems odd.

I am French and switch operators every year (because they have those stupid offers with significantly cheaper subscription that only last 12 months and it only takes a couple of minutes to subscribe to a new one) and I have used tethering frequently with Free, Numericable, Bouygues and SFR without getting any warning or noticing any oddity in the content served.

Also, Orange has a bit more inertia than the others (it used to be the French public phone company France Telecom), but their support page says that tethering is part of the regular mobile subscriptions.

[1] https://boutique.orange.fr/mobile/fonction-modem

Re:Net Neutrality’s Holes in Europe May Offer Peek at Future... by kaplun on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @12:01PM (#15907147)
Yup, I was mentioning explicitly Orange, because a friend of mine got the nasty surprise after trying to enable tethering.

And this option was not in his normal subscription, although it was a subscription with quite a nice Data plan.

And this violates Net Neutrality because Orange is deciding what you can do or not with your paid bandwidth.

Re:Net Neutrality’s Holes in Europe May Offer Peek at Future... by TheCowboy on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @09:24AM (#15905713)
AT&T USA also charges extra for tethering on top of a data plan. Apple's iPhone will even block you from tethering if you don't pay extra to AT&T.
Re:Net Neutrality’s Holes in Europe May Offer Peek at Future... by freeone3000 on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @11:52AM (#15907059)
They enforce this at the ROM level but not the SIM level, so any user-flashed ROM gets around this incompetent "restriction".
Re:Net Neutrality’s Holes in Europe May Offer Peek at Future... by celeritascelery on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @09:58AM (#15905954)
Same with Verizon
Re:Net Neutrality’s Holes in Europe May Offer Peek at Future... by AndrewGaspar on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @10:18AM (#15906125)
I'm positive I don't pay an additional charge for tethering on Verizon.
Re:Net Neutrality’s Holes in Europe May Offer Peek at Future... by TheCowboy on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @01:21PM (#15908014)
You might not given that provider plans and bundles do change over time. Sometimes there are still restrictions and drawbacks (e.g. throttling) since providers are opaque about their services. There could be new plans that include tethering but cost more or have bandwidth caps.
Re:Net Neutrality’s Holes in Europe May Offer Peek at Future... by shmerl on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @09:47AM (#15905868)
That already violates net neutrality.
Re:Net Neutrality’s Holes in Europe May Offer Peek at Future... by ac29 on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @11:32AM (#15906870)
Net neutrality rules never applied to wireless connections.
Re:Net Neutrality’s Holes in Europe May Offer Peek at Future... by shmerl on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @12:34PM (#15907518)
The principle applies to all traffic. Current rules are far from perfect on their own and have loopholes already. Instead of repealing them, they should be extended, including outright banning anti-competitive data caps which is a pure rip off.
Re:Net Neutrality’s Holes in Europe May Offer Peek at Future... by Feniks on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @05:18PM (#15910023)
Were I live packet inspection is illegal, regardless if its wired or mobile.
Re:Net Neutrality’s Holes in Europe May Offer Peek at Future... by rayiner on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @01:43PM (#15908210)
Yes they do.