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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by sp332 on Thursday December 07, 2017 @03:32PM (#15873834)
It's tough not only to cut back the calories, but to pack needed nutrients into the few calories remaining. Over several months you could accidentally end up with a severe deficiency of something.
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by pascalxus on Thursday December 07, 2017 @04:23PM (#15874394)
Spinach can help a huge amount in that because it has soo many nutrients.

Here's my fasting plan: 1 Meal/day 100 cals - 1 lb of Spinach 60 cals of tuna (1/2 a small can) 1/2 lb of cauliflower

That total comes out to about 200 cals and meets aboout 100% of 1/2 of all the micronutrients and roughly 50 to 100% of all the other micronutrients. The Tuna (Selenium,b3,b12,b6) nicely complements the Spinach (high in A,C,E,K,Iron, Magnesium). And you get a relatively high amount of protein and fiber (normalized for cals)

Also, you can use something like Crono-meter to measure all your nutrients.

And btw, just because someone is eating 2000+ cals doesn't mean they're getting all their nutrients. Most of the foods people eat are so devoid of any nutrition, they minus well not even count.

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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by sp332 on Thursday December 07, 2017 @04:41PM (#15874590)
Did I misread or are you eating a pound of spinach in one sitting? How do you fit that in your stomach?
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by pascalxus on Thursday December 07, 2017 @06:25PM (#15875336)
It becomes a lot smaller after you boil it. But, it's fairly easy to eat all that, with my vast appetite. For anyone with weight problems, appetite and hunger tends to be way too large anyway.
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by DiabloD3 on Thursday December 07, 2017 @04:47PM (#15874654)
Have you never cooked spinach? It turns into nothing by the time you're done.
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by seanmcdirmid on Thursday December 07, 2017 @05:23PM (#15874931)
He didn’t specify though. Cooked and raw spinach have very different nutritional properties, so it makes sense to eat both.
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by pascalxus on Thursday December 07, 2017 @06:26PM (#15875343)
The minerals stay the same. It's just the vitamins that are decreased. But, spinach has such a vast amount of vitamin A,C,K to start with, it hardly matters.
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by seanmcdirmid on Thursday December 07, 2017 @07:38PM (#15875726)
The acid brought out in cooking doesn’t just decrease the nutrients, it allows some nutrients to be absorbed easier, so it’s a bit more complex.
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by thedaemon on Thursday December 07, 2017 @05:43PM (#15875085)
True, but you should always listen to your body. It usually craves the things you need. If you of course discount the craving for sugars and the like.
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by nradov on Thursday December 07, 2017 @05:59PM (#15875192)
In my experience "listen to your body" is most often an excuse that people use to continue making unhealthy choices about food. Is there any research data on the correlation between food cravings and actual nutritional deficiencies?
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by firethief on Thursday December 07, 2017 @07:17PM (#15875607)
It's definitely true to some extent. People with mineral deficiencies sometimes start eating eat rocks and dirt.
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by mkagenius on Thursday December 07, 2017 @10:56PM (#15876558)
A man[1] lost in an ocean suddenly developed an appetite for eyes of fish -- rich source of Vitamin C (which they had started to have depletion adrift in the sea)

1. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/04/castaway-jose-...

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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by BlytheSchuma on Thursday December 07, 2017 @03:40PM (#15873923)
Soylent.
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by toomuchtodo on Thursday December 07, 2017 @03:44PM (#15873981)
Too much sugar (check the label). More like Ketochow (protein shake, vitamins, heavy whipping cream). Each of my servings is ~500 calories. Shed three pounds per week eating it 3 meals a day, no exercise.

I miss the pancake batter taste of Soylent, don’t miss being fat.

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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by BlytheSchuma on Thursday December 07, 2017 @07:30PM (#15875677)
The sugar is mostly isomaltulose.
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by toomuchtodo on Thursday December 07, 2017 @08:27PM (#15875981)
Carbs are carbs.
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by BlytheSchuma on Thursday December 07, 2017 @08:58PM (#15876121)
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/02/160216111400.h...
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by toomuchtodo on Thursday December 07, 2017 @09:28PM (#15876239)
I should’ve been more clear, my apologies. Even if isomaltulose is released more slowly in the bloodstream, it’s quantity is higher in Soylent than one would prefer.

Too many carbs are too many carbs.

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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by JBlue42 on Thursday December 07, 2017 @04:30PM (#15874471)
How bad is the taste?
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by toomuchtodo on Thursday December 07, 2017 @04:40PM (#15874571)
Delicious. I eat the chocolate and peanut butter Ketochow flavors regularly.
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by JBlue42 on Thursday December 07, 2017 @04:51PM (#15874683)
That sounds better than Soylent, tbh. I might have to check this out. Thanks!
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by ketosoy on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:13AM (#15879144)
There's a pretty wide range of products out there right now in the "keto soylent" market:

http://Ketolent.com http://KetoOne.com http://KetoChow.com Keto Fuel http://superbodyfuel.com/shop/keto-fuel-sample/

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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by toomuchtodo on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:37AM (#15879378)
Disclaimer that you make one of the products?
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by Retric on Thursday December 07, 2017 @03:43PM (#15873966)
... is not designed for an 850 calorie diet.
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by ketosoy on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:12AM (#15879133)
http://Ketolent.com

http://KetoOne.com

http://KetoChow.com

Keto Fuel http://superbodyfuel.com/shop/keto-fuel-sample/

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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by sp332 on Thursday December 07, 2017 @04:09PM (#15874263)
Maybe not Soylent(TM) but a modified recipe with less carbs (maltodextrin and isomaltulose) would work.
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by anujabro on Thursday December 07, 2017 @05:43PM (#15875083)
Check out Ketochow
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Re:Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows by ketosoy on Friday December 08, 2017 @10:13AM (#15879148)
http://Ketolent.com http://KetoOne.com http://KetoChow.com Keto Fuel http://superbodyfuel.com/shop/keto-fuel-sample/
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