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Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by aerovistae on Friday December 01, 2017 @11:18PM (#15830126)
Is it? Seems fair to me that if you antagonize everyone under the sun, it comes back to bite you.

I would hate to live in a system that worked by the letter and just said "Well, can't touch him, he didn't TECHNICALLY break any laws...."

Like what if you had a stalker who wasn't TECHNICALLY violating any of the terms of his restraining order but was doing everything in their power to make your miserable anyway? Is it a disgrace for the law to find a way to stick it to them?

Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by bmelton on Friday December 01, 2017 @11:59PM (#15830246)
> Is it a disgrace for the law to find a way to stick it to them?

If you don't uphold the civil rights of the loathsome, then those protections won't be there to protect the righteous.

It's worth remembering that while Shkrelli is super unlikeable, at various points in history, so were Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, etc.

Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by Larrikin on Saturday December 02, 2017 @12:18AM (#15830311)
All of those people were jailed for their actions. Their actions were considered noble by a large number of people so there were multiple lawful and unlawful protests that brought pressure on the government to change the law.
Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by stale2002 on Saturday December 02, 2017 @12:08PM (#15832805)
Yes, and it was BAD that those people were jailed.

They were jailed because the system was broken. And it would be better if the system was NOT broken.

Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by nickysielicki on Saturday December 02, 2017 @03:19PM (#15833829)
> Yes, and it was BAD that those people were jailed.

In absolute terms, it was bad that those people were jailed, but with respect to the system, it was good that those people were jailed because it served to highlight the clear disconnect between the laws and what was right and wrong to society. It's unrealistic to expect institutions to make changes without going through the process. If Rosa Parks never went to jail there would have never been the protests which brought about change.

If you think the actions by Shkreli should have strong punishment, it's a bad thing if Shkreli gets the book thrown at him artificially. You're not setting precedent and you're not fixing the system. Someone in the future will do something similar and, depending on the court, they'll get off with a slap on the wrist. You should root for things to be done by the book so that everyone can realize, "hey, this book sucks!" and it gets changed through legislation.

Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by 1000units on Friday December 01, 2017 @11:22PM (#15830138)
I don't think you understand what you are advocating. The letter of the law is sacred. This is fundamental jurisprudence.

If you don't like the system, we have something called legislature to change it.

Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by teej on Friday December 01, 2017 @11:58PM (#15830243)
The charter and purpose of the judicial system is to interpret the law. The “letter of the law” is not sacred.
Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by giardini on Saturday December 02, 2017 @12:14AM (#15830291)
Indeed. It is the spirit of the law that is sacred.
Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by 1000units on Saturday December 02, 2017 @12:29AM (#15830349)
After you see enough miserable, unrecognizable contortions of the law used as weapons by the powerful against the innocent in the name of spirit, you begin to appreciate why all the greatest judiciaries ultimately respect the written word.
Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by 1000units on Saturday December 02, 2017 @12:03AM (#15830263)
I'm glad you're not member to my judiciary.
Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by Larrikin on Saturday December 02, 2017 @12:23AM (#15830330)
I'm glad you're not one of those judges that can run on an open ballot in certain states.
Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by exabrial on Saturday December 02, 2017 @01:07AM (#15830485)
Yes. If they aren't breaking the law, they aren't breaking the law. You don't get to bend Justice to a certain outcome because of a perceived social injustice.
Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by gaius on Saturday December 02, 2017 @04:25AM (#15831133)
I would hate to live in a system that worked by the letter and just said "Well, can't touch him, he didn't TECHNICALLY break any laws...."

But we do live in that system. That's how Google and Apple pay no taxes.

Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by SamPatt on Saturday December 02, 2017 @05:35PM (#15834584)
What's your source on those companies paying no taxes?
Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by nickysielicki on Friday December 01, 2017 @11:24PM (#15830145)
Yes. ABSOLUTELY YES.

Rules have to mean something. Retroactively changing the rules because you don't like the outcome is like having no rules at all.

Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by to_bpr on Saturday December 02, 2017 @03:40PM (#15833942)
>I would hate to live in a system that worked by the letter and just said "Well, can't touch him, he didn't TECHNICALLY break any laws...."

Your mindset is terrifying.