Ubuntu 17.10: Return of the Gnome

Re:Ubuntu 17.10: Return of the Gnome by onboardram on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @12:01AM (#15794565)

I gave a chance to GNOME 3 times in last couple of years with Fedora 24, 25 and 26 and it was equally bad everytime. Memory Leaks reduced it to a crawling mess in a few hours of uptime, the desktop would freeze up permanently while doing even most basic task like switching windows or bringing up their Expose-thing, mouse will start jittering and lagging anytime icons/textures were being loaded, extensions and themes broke again and again. Who would have though putting a Javascript interpreter in the critical pipeline of (what was supposed to be) a reponsive animation-guided GUI would be a bad idea?

Gave KDE a shot and beside all the bloat ans slowness, the damn thing kept crashing on my lock screen. Seriously?

I have switched to Sway now which itself is far from perfect (GTK3 apps keep breaking now and again, visible tooltips in XWayland windows prevent workspace switching) but at least it doesn't hang up my machine every couple of hours or prevent me from unlocking it.

How the hell did we got here? What exactly are the priorities of people working on this stuff? Here's hoping that XFCE gets ported to Wayland soon enough.

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Re:Ubuntu 17.10: Return of the Gnome by boomboomsubban on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @02:29AM (#15795171)

I would guess that this is a driver issue, the developers have their priorities mostly straight and would not ship a desktop where this was the expected behavior.

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Re:Ubuntu 17.10: Return of the Gnome by petepete on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @02:44AM (#15795220)

Funny, Gnome 3 runs like a dream on my aged machine for weeks at a time.

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Re:Ubuntu 17.10: Return of the Gnome by megous on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @12:33AM (#15794689)

Well, have you reported the bugs, or helped debug them?

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Re:Ubuntu 17.10: Return of the Gnome by dilap on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @12:55AM (#15794782)

it's a nice theory, but in my experience most open source projects don't pay too much attention to bug reports.

edit: sounds like bug-fixing nowadays in gnome may be better than i remembered / have experienced.

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Re:Ubuntu 17.10: Return of the Gnome by Klover on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @09:35AM (#15797583)

Anecdotal and late to the party, but I once encountered a bug in the Fedora installer. The installer guided me through the process of reporting the bug, including screenshot taking, including and uploading. It told me helpful tips on writing the bug report itself. I believe it even guided me on how to create an account, and so I got frequent updates in my spam account on how the bug got fixed and when and what happened with it.

Recently I tried out their new Fedora 27 release, did the same steps to reproduce the bug, and no bug encountered! I was extremely impressed, being totally new to open source and the development of it.

Your experience may have been neutral at worst, mine was super positive. I highly recommend you try! I got a fun experience out of that little tech adventure.

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Re:Ubuntu 17.10: Return of the Gnome by dilap on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @12:01PM (#15799003)

Wow, that's a really nice experience.

I should note in fairness that many bugs I report into Apple's black hole of a bug reporting tool also don't end up fixed. Maybe I just report weird bugs :-)

(An example of one I reported against Mac OS that got emailed as fixed, but still happens, though less frequently: Sometimes when alt-tabbing, the system will act as though the tab key were never released.)

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Re:Ubuntu 17.10: Return of the Gnome by danieldk on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @02:08AM (#15795086)

I reported some bugs in the Wayland support for GNOME Mutter a while ago. They were all fixed in a few days/weeks.

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Re:Ubuntu 17.10: Return of the Gnome by Vogtinator on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @01:35AM (#15794941)

If by "most" you mean those with just a single maintainer who works on it in his free time, you're probably right. For KDE, not so much.

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Re:Ubuntu 17.10: Return of the Gnome by megous on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @09:22AM (#15797497)

Perhaps, but why complain here then? Nothing will get fixed this way.

In any case, the software is free, and reporting bugs is one way of contributing back.

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