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Re:Simpson's Paradox and the Hot Hand in Basketball (1995) by magpi3 on Saturday November 25, 2017 @05:44PM (#15778401)
Interesting paper, but as a former basketball but, I disagree with the premise that free throws have anything to do with a "hot hand."

To me a hot hand is only something that can exist in the flow of the game. It is not about making shots. It is about making contested shots and quick decisions. A player with a hot hand is one that is feeling especially focused and confident for a specific period of time. Ideally a player tries to hold onto their focus and confidence for the entire game, but unless they have a Buddha-like nature that is just not possible.

Re:Simpson's Paradox and the Hot Hand in Basketball (1995) by MisterTea on Sunday November 26, 2017 @01:13AM (#15779666)
I completely agree. Reminds me of my hot streaks when playing FPS games, specifically when I played TF2. Normally I'm a mediocre engineer, pyro or solder. But something about playing the spy gave me a rush at times where I could rack up well over a hundred kills on the map. And there were a few times I topped 200 in a map. But once I lost focus, I crashed hard and I would stop playing for the day.
Re:Simpson's Paradox and the Hot Hand in Basketball (1995) by glaugh on Saturday November 25, 2017 @06:35PM (#15778590)
The original paper only covered free throws as one of three examples of the hot hand fallacy. The other examples were of shooting in the normal run of play.

http://node101.psych.cornell.edu/sec/pubPeople/tdg1/Gilo.Val...

Re:Simpson's Paradox and the Hot Hand in Basketball (1995) by currymj on Saturday November 25, 2017 @07:52PM (#15778856)
more recent statistical analyses have found evidence for a hot hand effect, though.

i also don't necessarily like calling it a fallacy, as i've definitely run into some people who misinterpret that word, basically assuming that there can never be autocorrelation in data, and anyone who thinks there is must be falling prey to a logical fallacy.

Re:Simpson's Paradox and the Hot Hand in Basketball (1995) by thecupisblue on Sunday November 26, 2017 @06:05AM (#15780359)
I kind of disagree.

In the flow of the game, it's hard for hot hand to exist and what you describe is `the zone`. But in a free throws game, there surely is a hot hand. I always get the first few hit/miss, but when I finally feel calibrated with my stance and my hand `whip` and get a hit I like, then the next one is probably a hit again and after that I can streak for at least 4-5 shots.

Re:Simpson's Paradox and the Hot Hand in Basketball (1995) by lhuser123 on Saturday November 25, 2017 @08:12PM (#15778924)
> A player with a hot hand is one that is feeling especially focused and confident for a specific period of time

Yeah, like Kay Thompson dropping 37 points in 1 quarter and not missing any shoots. Even himself seems confused about what’s going on.

Re:Simpson's Paradox and the Hot Hand in Basketball (1995) by pocketsquare2 on Saturday November 25, 2017 @09:39PM (#15779184)
Case further in point, MJ with "The Shrug Game"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daP4JysFcUg

Re:Simpson's Paradox and the Hot Hand in Basketball (1995) by harry8 on Saturday November 25, 2017 @10:10PM (#15779255)
Means nothing. Get a thousand people to toss a coin 20 times in a row. Repeat 82 times each. Someone probably throws 20 heads in a row. Monte Carlo sim it.

That model I've just described does not disprove the hot hand. It does show that an occasion of a good shooting run also is not evidence that it exists.

Re:Simpson's Paradox and the Hot Hand in Basketball (1995) by aorloff on Saturday November 25, 2017 @06:03PM (#15778473)
Agree entirely. Free throws are a different matter than in-game shots.