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Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by k__ on Saturday November 25, 2017 @12:46PM (#15776923)
Same here, but I guess getting out of gmail and calendar will be tricky.
Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by ocodia on Saturday November 25, 2017 @12:49PM (#15776936)
Plenty of great email, contacts and calendar services out there, you just need to pay for them. I went with FastMail and it’s been absolutely painless.
Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by PuffinBlue on Saturday November 25, 2017 @03:14PM (#15777744)
The only difficulty with other services and contact syncing is 1) getting them to sync across both Android and iPhone bi-directionally and 2) syncing custom fields.

1 can largely be solved with effort (just about) but last I checked Fastmail doesnt use the same vcard formats as Google/Apple and doesnt support custom fields in contacts. That might have changed recently and I'd be very interested to look again if it has.

I even went as far as a fairly engaged back and forth with Fastmail support (reference to which is in my comment history somewhere here) to work out how they could get bi-directional syncing of custom fields to both platforms working. But they had no plans to implement it.

I appreciate mine is perhaps a niche use case but I've got a lot of contacts with multiple addresses and numbers in multiple countries and short of saving maybe 5 or 6 replica contact entries per individual (which is a mess over) the workable solution was to stay within a walled garden.

Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by k__ on Saturday November 25, 2017 @01:03PM (#15777004)
I fear the actual migration, not the alternatives
Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by smichel17 on Saturday November 25, 2017 @02:08PM (#15777368)
I suggest email migration in 3 steps:

1. Set up an email client and get into the habit of checking your mail from it instead of the web interface (at least, on your normal devices). 2. Create and start using your new email account, which you can add as a second email address in your client of choice, alongside your gmail. Share the new address with friends and family; people who you want to recieve mail from. 3. Gradually switch over logins and the rare newsletter you care about to the new address.

Eventually, you'll find that you no longer get any mail you care about on gmail. That's when you download an archive (which you think you will look at but actually never will) and delete your account. As a side benefit, you'll likely get to cut down the amount of junk mail you get :)

I've never used Google calendar, but I presume there's a way to export as ical? That should make it easy to migrate to any provider you like.

Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by k__ on Saturday November 25, 2017 @07:40PM (#15778819)
Problem with the calendar is, that it is linked with those of the people I care about
Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by krrrh on Saturday November 25, 2017 @01:35PM (#15777165)
Fastmail does the email migration in the cloud. It’s relatively quick and painless, and you can trial things for a period by setting up your gmail account as an alias (send from the fastmail web interface through gmail’s smtp servers etc) so you can always switch back if you don’t like it. When satisfied, set up an auto-responder and forwarding to let people know to stop emailing your @gmail account.

Fastmail has a decent calendar, but you may prefer to use iCloud or something else for that. Calendar clients on desktops and phones tend to be pretty good at supporting multiple providers so that is a lot easier to migrate.

Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by tonyztan on Saturday November 25, 2017 @12:50PM (#15776944)
Any recommendations for a Google Drive replacement?
Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by PrimHelios on Saturday November 25, 2017 @01:02PM (#15777002)
It isn't for everyone, but I host my own NextCloud instance on a personal server. Works fine after a bit of tweaking, but it can be a pain to set up.
Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by cmurf on Saturday November 25, 2017 @02:42PM (#15777571)
I wonder what it would cost to run a fallback instance on Google or Amazon cloud, like if my ISP/cable modem craps out for whatever reason.
Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by gregknicholson on Saturday November 25, 2017 @02:23PM (#15777465)
I use [https://syncthing.net/](Syncthing) because it's serverless, works on various Linuxes and Android, pretty easy to set up, and I trust it.

I trust it because I can get it from 3rd-party repos — Debian, Fedora, F-Droid — and I trust that they wouldn't all allow malicious software that claims all communication is encrypted.

Syncthing's forum uses Discourse. The whole thing just smells of competence.

Of course, it may not suit you.

Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by krrrh on Saturday November 25, 2017 @01:43PM (#15777211)
Dropbox/boxcryptor + MS Office. It’s of course necessary to use google drive for collaborative editing from time to time because it is so ubiquitous, but excel is still miles ahead of google sheets in terms of usability. Pages and Numbers are also pretty good for light use on the Mac and have free web versions for collaboration. The Dropbox desktop client is so much better than Drive in terms of CPU usage and straightforward sharing.
Re:Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017 by satysin on Saturday November 25, 2017 @12:54PM (#15776963)
I have been using Microsoft OneDrive without issue for the past couple of months. The new Files On Demand feature works well. Of course this is only really helpful to Windows users which is a shame.