It doesn't take but a modicum of research to know these answers. I'd expect HN commenters to be better than speaking out of ignorance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_the_United_State...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_on_Public_Informatio...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Information_Agen...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_Secretary_of_State_for_P...

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-brown/propaganda-public-...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent

And this doesn't even begin to get into the deep collusion between the government and the media with lobbying, regulatory capture, government appointments, politicians on corporate board seats.

"Propaganda" is an ambiguous word. By some definitions every country engages in ongoing propaganda. Especially in times of war (where the majority of these "modicum of research" you provided took place) there is sometimes a need to establish channels of communication and leadership.

Maybe it's easier to believe in a massively orchestrated conspiracy machine masterminding all of this, but I believe that the world and ongoing international affairs are slightly more nuanced than that.

What are you on about a "massively orchestrated conspiracy"? No one but you is talking about that.

Sorry, it seemed like that was being implied here but I must be mistaken.

Perhaps you were simply referring to the normal complexity one would expect out of a diverse crowd of interests from bodies of government and businesses acting in ways that sometimes overlap when you said:

> "deep collusion between the government and the media with lobbying, regulatory capture, government appointments, politicians on corporate board seats"

>in times of war

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_mili...