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Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by neuland on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @10:07AM (#15695611)
Your right on a privacy front from an absolute perspective. But, it's almost certain that Google paid for this change. A stronger Mozilla (financially speaking) is good for privacy and free software.

Also, normal users expect Google. So, having it in the default provides a more familiar experience for them to possibly switch to Firefox.

Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by amelius on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @10:15AM (#15695680)
Still, Firefox could automatically switch to e.g. Duckduckgo whenever the user is in incognito mode.
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by Yoric on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @12:50PM (#15697372)
I love the idea. Would you mind mind filing a bug on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/?
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by nkantar on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @01:26PM (#15697744)
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by SkyMarshal on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @10:20PM (#15701219)
One more idea - any chance you guys are making a Firefox Focus for the desktop? It's great on mobile, would love a desktop version too!
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by deftturtle on Thursday November 16, 2017 @01:06AM (#15710556)
It's just a content blocker + private browsing. Can get same functionality on desktop with private browsing and some ad blocker
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by SkyMarshal on Saturday November 25, 2017 @12:53AM (#15774635)
Plus tab functionality removed, hence the name "focus".
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by Yoric on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @02:06AM (#15701971)
(I should add that, while I work at Mozilla this is my personal view, not Mozilla's official view, yada, yada)
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by Skylled on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @01:19PM (#15697655)
Their privacy-focused mobile browser, Firefox Focus, defaults to DDG.
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by oatmealsnap on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @10:24AM (#15695767)
That's a great idea, along with a message explaining why.
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by talmand on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @10:28AM (#15695808)
Well, they could, but I would assume a contract with Google would prevent that.
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by luckystarr on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @11:20AM (#15696361)
Could. We don't know what's in this contract.
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by s17n on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @11:26AM (#15696425)
Pretty sure Google doesn't circumvent incognito so what's the point?
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by fenwick67 on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @12:27PM (#15697134)
Google certainly tracks people by their IP address, so your privacy is lesser with Google as your search engine than DDG.
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by amelius on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @01:51PM (#15697975)
Not only that, but it also raises awareness of private search engines with the general audience.
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by s17n on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @01:54PM (#15698002)
Are you sure? I thought they didn't do this.
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by yuhong on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @03:25PM (#15698778)
Though keep in mind it dates back to 2004.
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by JadeNB on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @04:40PM (#15699434)
> A stronger Mozilla (financially speaking) is good for privacy and free software.

While I understand exactly what you mean, surely there's a point at which accepting money from privacy-violating organisations (and bundling a privacy-violating extension, and who knows what else is coming?) means that Mozilla is no longer good for privacy?

Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by neuland on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @08:16PM (#15700781)
Definitely true. It's a balancing act. Granted, that means that some people are going to think you're compromising too much on your ideals (or to little).
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by djsumdog on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @11:49AM (#15696673)
Yea, I mean wasn't the default provider of Yahoo before because they paid for it specifically.

It'd be nice if DuckDuckGo could afford it, but keep in mind, the privacy aspect of their service is a marketing bent. They still run mostly on AWS. If a government agency wants your DuckDuckGo data, they can just serve a warrant to Amazon instead.

Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by brianbreslin on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @11:56AM (#15696775)
Google was the paying provider before Yahoo. This has been how Mozilla makes most of their money the last 10 years.
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by alphonsegaston on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @05:25PM (#15699771)
Keeping Firefox alive also helps assuage anti-trust concerns with regard to Chrome’s position in their ecosystem.
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by askvictor on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @09:37PM (#15701070)
In that case presumably Google would continue to fund Mozilla even if they go to another default search engine?
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by alphonsegaston on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @10:16PM (#15701210)
I think Google was still giving them money when they were defaulting to Yahoo, just less than the terms of this new deal.
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by goptimize on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @10:29AM (#15695829)
You are not financially stronger if one day most of your income will come from a source which you are expected to strongly protect from.
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by CoryG89 on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @10:45AM (#15695981)
It's not 'one day', the majority of Mozilla's funding has always come from 'search royalties'. Wikipedia says initial funding first came from AOL in 2003, then they had a deal with Google from 2004-2014. In 2014, it says they signed a deal with Yahoo. This is nothing new.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation#Financing

Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by goptimize on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @11:29AM (#15696458)
even more it is a joke to talk about being financially strong=independent, it is a puppet / outsourced browser organization
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by fgonzag on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @01:53PM (#15697997)
and yet it was the only browser that really opposed EME, and only backed down once not only every browser had implemented the extension, but many major media providers too. Basically once the browser became useless for media consumption because of it.
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by throw2016 on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @11:53AM (#15696726)
That's not how things work in the real world. This is a blatant conflict of interest, and its ironical inspite of the open source and privacy song and dance by Mozilla there is no transparency on the deal.
Re:Firefox Features Google as Default Search Provider in the... by Yoric on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @12:51PM (#15697388)
What do you mean "no transparency"? This has been announced officially, what else would you have expected?