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Re:Does anyone remember websites? by dogcow on Sunday November 05, 2017 @10:58PM (#15633361)
Check out the search engine at http://wiby.me

From their about page:

Search engines like Google are indispensable, able to find answers to all of your technical questions; but along the way, the fun of web surfing was lost. In the early days of the web, pages were made primarily by hobbyists, academics, and computer savvy people about subjects they were interested in. Later on, the web became saturated with commercial pages that overcrowded everything else. All the personalized websites are hidden among a pile of commercial pages. Google isn't great at finding those gems, its focus is on finding answers to technical questions, and it works well. But finding things you didn't know you wanted to know, which was the real joy of web surfing, no longer happens. In addition, many pages today are created using bloated scripts that add slick cosmetic features in order to mask the lack of content available on them. Those pages contribute to the blandness of today's web.

The wiby search engine is building a web of pages as it was in the earlier days of the internet.

Re:Does anyone remember websites? by spc476 on Monday November 06, 2017 @12:26AM (#15633593)
That site reminds me of a Douglas Adams quote: “I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.”
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by angel_lina on Monday November 06, 2017 @04:27AM (#15634309)
yes.This part of site is from Douglas Adam words.
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by Zhenya on Sunday November 05, 2017 @11:55PM (#15633520)
My favorite website: http://www.otherhand.org/

And my favorite article on it: http://www.otherhand.org/home-page/search-and-rescue/the-hun...

(No association)

Re:Does anyone remember websites? by perlpimp on Monday November 06, 2017 @05:50AM (#15634607)
I guess these days unless you are located in EU or North America or not from VPN you get to suffer messages like:

Your access to this service has been temporarily limited. Please try again in a few minutes. (HTTP response code 503)

Reason: Access from your area has been temporarily limited for security reasons

Re:Does anyone remember websites? by thr0w__4w4y on Tuesday November 07, 2017 @01:26AM (#15641415)
Yep, I'm on VPN right now, and I'm blocked.

But thank goodness for the Internet Archive! (FWIW, I've donated several times, it has helped me out so many times)

The article of interest is here: https://web.archive.org/web/20170920090047/http://www.otherh...

Re:Does anyone remember websites? by duckmysick on Monday November 06, 2017 @08:50PM (#15640496)
It is also limited in the EU.
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by mayankkaizen on Monday November 06, 2017 @03:08AM (#15634016)
I was greeted with this message - 'Your access to this site has been limited.'
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by martinpw on Monday November 06, 2017 @01:53AM (#15633811)
That article was a fascinating read. Thank you.
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by livatlantis on Monday November 06, 2017 @08:40AM (#15635301)
Ah yes, I remember stumbling into this page when looking for cold-case/solved mystery stories. I got through all 13 pages in one afternoon! Excellent story and writing.
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by martyvis on Monday November 06, 2017 @04:06PM (#15639008)
Wow, I just read that search story as well - fascinating!
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by sodaranju on Monday November 06, 2017 @04:27AM (#15634312)
yes, absolutely....
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by greenmana on Monday November 06, 2017 @03:04AM (#15634010)
At first glance that feels like a different kind of spin on Ted the Caver.
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by hawski on Monday November 06, 2017 @01:29AM (#15633757)
I started to work on something like it. With intention of filtering-out ad-serving websites first (thanks to EasyList filtering rules) and heavy-JS second. I'm glad that someone already did something like this.

Is there some more information about it? I found that it is done by https://www.wireservice.ca Is there a technical info?

I was wondering how big the index is. Because it may be just possible to serve the multi-gigabyte index with torrent. Then the update mechanism would serve only deltas. It could be then used locally. However index would probably have to be without content - so no snippets. I don't know if it would be useful that way.

It could use a comparison site. Side by side with Google for the same search. I would certainly want to use it this way for a while.

I think this is the way for the alternative search engine to somewhat succeed. Because I think it's almost impossible to compete with Google at being Google. Look at how Bing manages.

Re:Does anyone remember websites? by alt2501 on Monday November 06, 2017 @02:42AM (#15633945)
I agree! I'd never thought of using tor, but I had very similar ideas about an engine that doesn't index a site if it has ads, etc. I had an idea of using a delayed response in order to lessen the hardware requirements. So a user submits a query, then checks back later for a response. A little bit like a traditional library, haha! Anyway, i'm really glad to hear others are doing similar stuff, I think there is a market. The info is out there, it's just lost in a sea of noise.
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by vog on Monday November 06, 2017 @04:16AM (#15634252)
You might be interested in Ted Unangst's miniwebproxy:

https://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/miniwebproxy

Re:Does anyone remember websites? by bencollier49 on Monday November 06, 2017 @02:45AM (#15633959)
I searched "hamster" and got two results, the first of which was on rectal foreign bodies. Ah, the internet is back to the way it ought to be!
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by mojuba on Monday November 06, 2017 @12:04PM (#15636846)
> But finding things you didn't know you wanted to know...

... is exactly the thing that I'm most worried about losing. Especially when I hear about all sorts of "adaptive" crap that learns about what I do and adjusts my daily feeds, search results etc. accordingly. It probably works great for most people, but I'm definitely not one of them and I want to opt out of the adaptiveness of modern Web. Most of the time there is no clear way of doing that.

Re:Does anyone remember websites? by dorkwood on Tuesday November 07, 2017 @02:53AM (#15641663)
I really dislike youtube's 'recommended videos' for exactly this reason. It will never show me anything interesting, because it thinks I only want to watch things that I've already watched.
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by bacondev on Monday November 06, 2017 @12:58AM (#15633685)
I find things that I didn't know that I wanted to know through Wikipedia.
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by rb666 on Sunday November 05, 2017 @11:37PM (#15633464)
I hit "Surprise me" and first site it hits autodownloads a .mid file, that used to work better I 'member.
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by TeMPOraL on Monday November 06, 2017 @12:46AM (#15633651)
I hit "Surprise me" and got this gem: http://g2mil.com.

I like that search site already.

Re:Does anyone remember websites? by hawski on Monday November 06, 2017 @01:32AM (#15633765)
Great quote from this one:

> What someone doesn't want you to publish is journalism, all else is publicity.

> Paul Fussell

Re:Does anyone remember websites? by fractallyte on Monday November 06, 2017 @02:19AM (#15633885)
Thanks for that! Superbly informative website.

Someone, quick - point Ukraine and the Baltic states to this article "The Tank is Dead": http://g2mil.com/Anti-armor.htm

Re:Does anyone remember websites? by rev on Monday November 06, 2017 @05:59AM (#15634639)
Aand, come Russkies (that's what you meant, right?), Ukraine and the Baltic states would be dead by frontline bombers (look at Syria, American and Russian tactics are not all that different in that respect) and advanced artillery. Look, ma, no tanks!
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by fractallyte on Tuesday November 07, 2017 @03:10AM (#15641716)
Well, it's (literally!) a disruptive technology introduced into the mix...

"US and Baltic troops — and American airpower — would be unable to halt the advance of mechanized Russian units and would suffer heavy casualties in the process" (https://en.delfi.lt/lithuania/defence/russia-could-occupy-al...)

BTW, this was a study from Rand Corporation!

Re:Does anyone remember websites? by adam-_- on Monday November 06, 2017 @10:12AM (#15635983)
I tried searching for "cyclocross", a slightly obscure cycling niche, perfect for a search engine like this, you might think? Unfortunately, no one has curated any content around that topic :(
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by dickbasedregex on Sunday November 05, 2017 @11:12PM (#15633394)
I am going to lose so many hours to this. Thanks!
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by leeoniya on Monday November 06, 2017 @01:35AM (#15633775)
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by exadeci on Monday November 06, 2017 @06:27PM (#15639899)
Haha if look for google under the url it says: "a wise guy eh? ಠ_ಠ"
Re:Does anyone remember websites? by feelin_googley on Monday November 06, 2017 @01:29PM (#15637590)
found: http://bitcheese.net/web_browsers_must_die

(fwiw, author appears to be a Rails developer)