Re:I Watched All of the Chrome Dev Summit 2017 Videos
by pryelluw on Saturday October 28, 2017 @05:27PM
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After hurricane Maria hit Puerto Rico, I had to drive 15 minutes to get mobile signal. Every website except HN and Gmail (html version) was too slow to load. This experience has lead me to reconsider my opinions regarding performance.
Re:I Watched All of the Chrome Dev Summit 2017 Videos
by sytelus on Saturday October 28, 2017 @09:02PM
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In my recent travel to India, I realized that "normal" broadband speed is usually 1Mbps. Almost everything on Internet comes to crawl. Vimeo and GitHub is surprisingly bad. I can't even download the releases of project > 1 GB due to timeouts and errors in Chrome. So I'd to VPN to my US computer, download it to dropbox and then wait for sync in my India machine :).
Re:I Watched All of the Chrome Dev Summit 2017 Videos
by katastic on Sunday October 29, 2017 @12:40AM
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Gmail on my AMD FX-8370 at 4 GHZ with 32GB RAM (and 60 MBit connection) takes... 5 seconds to load.
Gmail (HTML)... takes 0.5 seconds. (And about the same on my Netbook with a Celeron)
Guess which one I use? It's like the entire world has forgotten what productivity is.
Re:I Watched All of the Chrome Dev Summit 2017 Videos
by Too on Sunday October 29, 2017 @03:30AM
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On the other hand, once you are in gmail, everything is literally instant, opening the next email is faster than many desktop clients. It's designed for longer use, not drive-by. How long does it take to open a new mail in gmail lite? Do you have autocomplete on contacts and keyboard shortcuts for navigation and labeling?
Re:I Watched All of the Chrome Dev Summit 2017 Videos
by eru on Saturday October 28, 2017 @06:41PM
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What about the Google front page?
(And Wikipedia?)
Re:I Watched All of the Chrome Dev Summit 2017 Videos
by pryelluw on Saturday October 28, 2017 @11:38PM
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I did not test Wikipedia and dont use Google. Duck Duck Go was unusable.
Re:I Watched All of the Chrome Dev Summit 2017 Videos
by ascom on Sunday October 29, 2017 @12:06AM
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https://duckduckgo.com/html
Or if it's really bad: https://duckduckgo.com/lite
Re:I Watched All of the Chrome Dev Summit 2017 Videos
by toomuchtodo on Sunday October 29, 2017 @01:44PM
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I am somewhat surprised Duck Duck Go doesn’t detect load speed and offer the degraded lite version on slow connections (Gmail does this).
Re:I Watched All of the Chrome Dev Summit 2017 Videos
by pryelluw on Sunday October 29, 2017 @01:58PM
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Did not know of those. Whish theyd redirect there after noticing a slow load.
Re:I Watched All of the Chrome Dev Summit 2017 Videos
by hesarenu on Saturday October 28, 2017 @10:37PM
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Connection needs to be stable as well. It usually isn't in developing countries. Yesterday Hacker news was talking about 3+ seconds to load. Today it loads instantly. When the speed varies you just wait for the page to load. Nobody thinks it's JavaScript they assume net is slow.
Re:I Watched All of the Chrome Dev Summit 2017 Videos
by kinlan on Saturday October 28, 2017 @02:26PM
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Did they fix it? Did they care about fixing it?
Re:I Watched All of the Chrome Dev Summit 2017 Videos
by microcolonel on Saturday October 28, 2017 @02:46PM
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Nah, it's still trash, and they expanded it to more markets! The good-but-not-great software consulting firm they replaced us with (lower per-head rate, and they don't question the tech lead) sometimes still emails me to try to get ideas about how to fix it, but they never bite the bullet. They're thinking of doing things which will actually make it even slower and fatter.
This is what happens when you hire people who are foolisher, lazier, or more short-sighted than you, they rot your company from the inside out. ;- )
Re:I Watched All of the Chrome Dev Summit 2017 Videos
by shitRabbits on Saturday October 28, 2017 @06:52PM
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This comment depresses me. It just sounds like everyone had no experience and just threw their hands up and said fuck it.
Re:I Watched All of the Chrome Dev Summit 2017 Videos
by microcolonel on Saturday October 28, 2017 @07:07PM
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I've thought at times about contacting the CEO or the board of the company to let them know that their executive might be screwing them out of tens (if not hundreds) of millions of dollars by being lazy and selfish, but I'm beginning to think that this is just the way it's supposed to be.
Maybe it's for the best that they don't make a smooth end-to-end ecommerce user flow, more money in common folks' pockets in Taiwan and Western Europe, and more money in the pockets of developers.
That's why their target for "emerging markets" devices is five whole seconds of JavaScript compilation, which would hardly be considered acceptable on a device five times as expensive, but that device is not five times as fast on a given core, it's probably something more like one and a half or two, maybe two and a half if you include faster main memory and caches.
Added: I once worked on an ecommerce site where I told my team early on that we would probably do worse than we planned if we built and tested on the latest iPhones and Galaxy devices, and was vindicated basically every week after a certain point. It was so bad that, on 802.11ac WiFi connected to a gigabit downlink with about 15ms round trip latency to the servers, the homepage would take about 10 seconds to display anything at all on an iPhone 6s, and another 8 seconds to finish loading the visible content. Unbelievably, more than three quarters of that time was spent parsing and compiling JavaScript. You don't even want to know what happens when you try to open that site on anything slower than a late 2015 flagship device.