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Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by timthelion on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @06:17AM (#15548868)
Imagine a world in which Xi, Kim Jong *, and a host of other wealthy dictators were immortal, and the rest of us pee-ons were not. I believe that is the future of high tech immortality.
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by lawlessone on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @07:04AM (#15549056)
Well the current Kim is 3rd in his line, so clearly they die.

And clearly death doesn't end the dictatorship.

Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by karmelapple on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @10:19AM (#15550299)
All medical advancements that enhance or prolong life get to be used first by wealthy individuals. Eventually, they reduce in price and reach more people.

Just because only a few people could afford a CT scan when it first came out doesn’t mean we shouldn’t keep developing it for the wife benefits we will see in the future.

Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by erikj on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @06:57AM (#15549026)
They can still be shot in the face, stem cells won't help them with that.
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by yAnonymous on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @07:05AM (#15549065)
Artificial body parts and a backup of the mind on USB...
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by knodi123 on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @11:39AM (#15551005)
Mind backups do nothing for me. Imagine if your airplane ran out of fuel over the ocean. You're going to crash and die, so you get on the radio, and air traffic control says "don't worry, your estate already restored a backup of your mind into a cloned body. just go ahead and plow into the water at full speed, the new you is already awake and seems happy and comfortable."

Would you think "whew, I really dodged a bullet there", or would you think "fuck that clone, I don't want to die!" ?

Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by Danihan on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @12:11PM (#15551375)
The former.
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by alien_at_work on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @12:44PM (#15551682)
I can't grasp this view point. A clone with a "mind upload" is more like a twin. You'll still die and will not exist anymore to see what you're clone/twin does.
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by knodi123 on Thursday October 26, 2017 @01:29AM (#15556578)
wow. so you're perfectly at peace with death if someone convincingly tells you that your family won't be able to tell the difference between the old you and your clone?

That whole mindset is utterly alien to me. I guess it all comes down to how you feel about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_identity

Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by Danihan on Thursday October 26, 2017 @01:42PM (#15561215)
Not if someone "convincingly tells me," but if I've seen convincing evidence that demonstrates the backup is essentially identical, sure.
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by jksmith on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @09:22AM (#15549843)
I think we'll see anti-aging treatments before that happens, so yes, a shot in the face would probably be effective until the singularity comes. Then a shot in the face will become some powershell script.
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by devdoomari on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @09:43AM (#15550002)
hm... but wouldn't they still fear death-experience? also, mind-on-usb != my-mind imho... (it could be a ctrl-c,v of my mind, but can be said as someone else with my thoughts?)
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by brixon on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @09:48AM (#15550052)
Let's hope they only transfer at USB 1.0 speeds.
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by bamboozled on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @06:36AM (#15548942)
I've been thinking about this lately too, it almost feels like we're here already.

I often read stories about innocent younger people dying from something tragic; However, why do I almost never wake up to, "<evil tyrannical dictator> has unexpectedly and peacefully passed away in their sleep?"

Brave new world I guess?

Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by sleepychu on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @07:06AM (#15549070)
Lots of innocent young people, not many dictators
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by 0xdeadbeefbabe on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @11:45AM (#15551073)
The dictators started out innocent and young too.
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by bamboozled on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @07:32AM (#15549199)
Fair point :)
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by datawarrior on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @11:33AM (#15550953)
Robert Mugabe is an example of this.
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by mcgarnagle on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @06:38AM (#15548950)
I don't think immortal is the right word here. You can still die from physical harm, no matter how many stem cells you consume. So in theory if someone abused the pee-ons for enough time, probably one of them would get mad enough to overthrow the power. Just like many revolutions throughout history.
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by timthelion on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @07:09AM (#15549087)
Most dynasties in history were overthrown by competing heirs, not the people. It is actually very rare for dictatorships to turn into democracies. Many reigns only end in death. Do you think Putin will ever be overthrown?
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by narag on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @09:58AM (#15550151)
It is actually very rare for dictatorships to turn into democracies.

In the last half century give or take some years, half of Europe and Latin America nations have successfully and peacefully made this transition. And only Venezuela has returned to dictatorship.

Do you think Putin will ever be overthrown?

No idea. Formal democracy is still in place, so there's hope.

Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by timthelion on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @10:06AM (#15550204)
But recorded history in Europe goes back some 3000 years.
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by narag on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @11:11AM (#15550767)
Universal suffrage is as recent as 1906, and only for male voters was introduced in American and French revolutions. So with some back and forth, (modern, real) democracy has been steadly advancing since it was born two centuries ago, with a much clearer trend last half century.
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by mcgarnagle on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @11:59AM (#15551216)
No, because he: a) has a very high approval rating, b) minimized a lot of corruption problems for Russia where people were stealing absolutely everywhere after the soviet collapse c) does not commit humanitarian crimes
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by klibertp on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @12:32PM (#15551571)
I'm not involved in any way, but from the news I watch, both a) and c) claims are debatable. I guess he's not worse than what he replaced, but that doesn't make him good. At least that's the spin in the media in my country, possibly very biased for a lot of reasons.
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by andrewtbham on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @09:25AM (#15549868)
yeh the correct term is biological immortality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_immortality

Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by melling on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @07:31AM (#15549194)
nah, I’m imagining a different world. I get bored with always imagining the world where “only the rich...”.

At any rate, very few people are actually working on “immortality”. Most of us squander our time bullshitting on the Internet. There’s little danger of solving immortality for several generations.

Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by ourmandave on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @06:40AM (#15548956)
We can't all live forever. The Soylent Green factory needs "volunteers" 24/7.
Re:Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early... by top256 on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @06:24AM (#15548898)
kind of Warhammer 40K?