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Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by cconcepts on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @10:35PM (#15546967)
Me: "My phone broke randomly"

Them: "You dropped it in water didn't you?"

Me: "No, I didn't"

Them: "Yes, you did"

Me: "Nope"

Them: "Yep"

Me: "Nope" .......

Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by Spivak on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @10:52PM (#15547053)
I don't see how it changes the situation. Even if the owner intentionally damaged the phone they would still be entitled to having it repaired for $parts + $labor.
Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by cconcepts on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @12:49AM (#15547558)
Genuine replacement screen: $450 2 hours labour from highly trained apple certified screen replacement technician: $180.

"....but I shouldn't have to pay these exorbitant fees - I didnt drop it in water...."

"Yes you did"

Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by kevin_thibedeau on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @01:21AM (#15547700)
Shouldn't a $1000 phone be waterproof?
Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by coldtea on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @02:24AM (#15547938)
Isn't this behind the point?

For one, still not all $1000 phones are waterproof, and second, this can apply to all kind of other devices, like laptops, who can't be or is very difficult to make waterproof without major compromises (e.g. heat dissipation).

Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by burntrelish1273 on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @01:39AM (#15547774)
<sarcasm because="Poe's law">

Owners of $1000 phones don't go near water or need cases. They never make mistakes.

</sarcasm>

Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by nsomaru on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @06:05AM (#15548823)
Anecdote: dropped an iPhone 6 to the bottom of a pool. Failed spectacularly bringing it back up a few times. Total about 2-3 minutes submerged at around 2m.

Put the phone in a rice bag for 2 days, charged and it's working fine :)

Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by ams6110 on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @11:29AM (#15550919)
I've seen the rice treatment work also, but chances for success are reportedly better if you do not try to turn the device on first.
Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by burntrelish1273 on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @01:34AM (#15547759)
That red strip on iDevices that changed in temporary high-humidity conditions. If Apple actually produced good PCBs and conformally-coated them and capped their JTAGs, water damage and corrosion would be much less likely.
Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by crispyambulance on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @10:28AM (#15550378)
Why do say they don't produce good PCB's?

Conformal coating introduces problems too and, moreover, makes repair intractable.

I don't know if conformal coating even works properly with the very fine pitch BGA's that cover much of the surface area of the PCB in an iPhone.

Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by coldtea on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @02:24AM (#15547941)
>If Apple actually produced good PCBs and conformally-coated them and capped their JTAGs, water damage and corrosion would be much less likely.

If? In what world they don't, and compared to which alternative?

Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by r00fus on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @12:24AM (#15547452)
Do iPhones still have the water sensitivity marker?
Re:Why We Must Fight for the Right to Repair Our Electronics by pls2halp on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @12:52AM (#15547571)
Yep. It became a lot more pertinent after the iPhone 7 was water resistant, as the markers seem less protected than the boards.