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Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by maxpert on Monday October 23, 2017 @10:58PM (#15538861)
Ok I am confused, 60k hits in a day? What broght down the website? 72MB of size, network congestion, or 60k hits? Even with authentication for download what can bring the system down? I have handled more traffic on a RPi with 100MBps connection. I really don’t get it.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by maxpert on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @01:42AM (#15539491)
Here I made a quick copy and a quick domain, almost 10 LoC and it will be more reliable than what Cambridge had http://hawking.sibte.ml/
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by fnwx17 on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @08:56AM (#15541174)
Love the irony on that! Which makes me wonder how much valuable content and research in locked away on technologically ancient servers in Cambridge and Oxford.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by qurashee on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @09:14AM (#15541252)
More modern and up to date than you'd think :) Some departments here in Oxford have a server life-cycle of 3-5 years. It's just that nobody bothers for higher than expected volume of traffic unfortunately (a practice that can be extrapolated to many things in academia).
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by chauhankiran on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @03:19AM (#15539802)
Wow! Thanks. But, I do not understand the <script> tag in homepage contains lots of ![]+[].
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by alain_gilbert on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @03:24AM (#15539825)
I think it's just a way to document.write his email address, so no bot/crawler can directly see it.

Edit: It evaluate to `document.write('HIS_EMAIL at gmail')`

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by pennaMan on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @07:15AM (#15540740)
If the browser can do it what's stoping a headless browser bot from evaluating it all the same? Is it just to lower the attack surface?
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by poooogles on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @07:53AM (#15540890)
>If the browser can do it what's stoping a headless browser bot from evaluating it all the same?

The vast majority of crawlers aren't that smart, headless browsers used to be painfully slow so no one used them.

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by contravariant on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @09:35AM (#15541386)
Evaluating all javascript to see if it eventually writes an email address is not a good idea.

In fact doing so probably violates the halting problem somehow.

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by mortehu on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @08:23AM (#15541016)
(60000 connections * 72 MB) / (24 hours * 40 Mbps) ~= 10 concurrent connections.

If your server is configured for a low number of concurrent connections, it can easily seem swamped if a small number of people are concurrently downloading a large file slowly. All that's happening is that it's not accept()ing new connections until existing ones finish.

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by gilleain on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @09:39AM (#15541402)
Heh, I don't know what the current hardware is for the CUDL DSpace repository, but having helped upgrade it a few years ago, I can't say the software is the fastest.

It's a java application with XLST in the page rendering pipeline, so not exactly optimised for speed.

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by lstyls on Monday October 23, 2017 @11:15PM (#15538923)
If you're hitting a single box, this seems perfectly possible - especially if the server or the network is poorly configured. This is what CDNs are for.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @09:25AM (#15541328)
This isn't Joe's blog running from a desktop found in a dumpster. It's a university with actual infrastructure. They should be able to handle this. Registration is probably more load.

A 72MB file being served 500,000 times over a 24hr period is 3-4Gb/sec.

The department probably has one or more web servers serving content off a network drive. Your average "rack of network storage" won't even blink at that.

There was probably a gigabit switch somewhere or that was being a bottleneck or the web server was simply misconfigured for this task.

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by lstyls on Wednesday October 25, 2017 @09:40PM (#15555729)
+1, thanks for the correction. Apparently I have a skewed perspective only working on web at big corporate joints.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by mayank on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @01:51AM (#15539516)
Probably a burst of traffic hitting a single box web server, rather than 60k hits spread out evenly over a day.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by posterboy on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @03:36AM (#15539873)
With a half time of 3 days of interest and a 100 MBps connection the average download time would be 3 hours. That would indeed seem unusual for today. but 30k page hits spaced out over 60 hours is not too much of a burden on top of that.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by yreg on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @04:57AM (#15540180)
It hit top of reddit yesterday, I don't think it was a mere 60k hits.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by Vinnl on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @07:23AM (#15540774)
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by maxpert on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @10:16AM (#15541684)
Tweeted her :P let's see if she is bothered to respond
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by masonic on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @05:17PM (#15545317)

  What brought down the website?
The Greys.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by retox on Monday October 23, 2017 @08:53PM (#15538302)
What percent of downloads will actually be read I wonder.

I'm guilt of downloading and hoarding things that seems interesting and never getting round to even opening them. "When I'm retired", I tell myself.

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by callinyouin on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @10:15AM (#15541670)
Guilty as charged, as well. I download just about any programming manual/book that's free in PDF or similar form and I've probably read maybe 10% of them.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by netsharc on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @12:19AM (#15539185)
I'm glad NPR used this headline, another news site said it "broke the internet". Journalism!(tm)
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by ianopolous on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @05:21AM (#15540298)
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by imrehg on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @08:54AM (#15541162)
Thanks a lot, and pinning it to help to seed :) `ipfs pin add /ipfs/QmNwcSE8BYQmHSS99dtg2VdAez4uswVkvCssj4Rgce4rLp`
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by F00Fbug on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @07:56AM (#15540901)
Was just thinking, "This sounds like a job for IPFS!" I spent most of Sunday reading about and playing with IPFS. Great idea - I hope it gets some traction.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by PhilWright on Monday October 23, 2017 @08:24PM (#15538160)
The PDF is just a scan of actual book printed pages. No wonder it is a monstrous size.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by ccvannorman on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:05PM (#15538351)
So a man who uses a machine for synthesis into text for speech, wrote a book which was then printed, scanned, and uploaded.

I wonder if they faxed it at some point too?

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by ktta on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:32PM (#15538516)
In 1966?

HN's guidelines say that one shouldn't ask if one has read the posted link, but I'm tempted to all the time.

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by vidarh on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @05:48AM (#15540423)
It would seem to be a joke.

But even so, while 1966 was indeed early for "regular" use of fax - the first "user friendly" Xerox fax machines hit the market around then -, the first transmission of facsimiles of images dates to the 1840's, and the first fax that used similar methods to "modern" fax machines of scanning line by line (the "scanning phototelegraph") dates to 1880. Commercial fax machines have been around since around 1900.

So it would indeed be possible.

One weird and wonderful product of early faxes (fax over radio predates "wired" fax machines): Finch Facsimile's [1] were used to transmit "newspapers" via AM radio in the '30's, that was then printed on thermal paper at the home of the subscriber.

From [1]: "Six hours overnight was enough time to print a six page two column news bulletin, delivered in time for breakfast."

[1]: http://www.theradiohistorian.org/Radiofax/newspaper_of_the_a...

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by lallysingh on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:10PM (#15538377)
What's this got to do with his speech problems? Did you want him to ready it to you?
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by ReverseCold on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:16PM (#15538413)
I think the point was that he entered the information in digitally, so it should have been easier to provide a digital copy rather than scan actual printed pages.

Note: Didn't go to the link, so just guessing.

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by ktta on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:31PM (#15538512)
>he entered the information in digitally

This is Stephen's Hawking's PhD thesis. It is dated 1966. How could he have entered it digitally? UNIX research didn't even start until 1970s.

I believe this comment chain thinks the thesis was written recently. So you guys thought Stephen Hawking didn't have a PhD till now?

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by seanmcdirmid on Monday October 23, 2017 @11:06PM (#15538893)
Well, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expensive_Typewriter came out in 1961. Cool name also (because computer time was expensive back then!).
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by ktta on Monday October 23, 2017 @11:20PM (#15538938)
That looks interesting!

I quoted UNIX to show how primitive technology was at the time, rather than say he could've possibly used a computer. With ALS, using a computer would as hard as writing I would presume.

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by aardvark291 on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:29PM (#15538499)
His thesis is from 1966, an era in which (1) it is likely that he typed it on a typewriter, and (2) he was still almost completely able-bodied.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by Sharlin on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @06:10AM (#15540501)
Not only did he type it with a typewriter, all the math notation in the thesis is hand-written! There was no math typesetting available in 1966 outside major printing houses. (Or, I guess, any reasonable priced option for getting your PhD thesis properly typeset and printed at all, math or not.)
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by agency on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:33PM (#15538521)
It's possible Hawking was able to type/write his thesis. It was published in 1965, two years after his ALS diagnosis. Wikipedia says he didn't begin to use crutches until the late 1960s.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by colinbartlett on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:01PM (#15538338)
Seems like a perfect use for a torrent. Is there a tracker link?
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by logicallee on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:36PM (#15538540)
"I've watched everything"

"What do you mean everything?"

"TV shows. Movies. Even the japanese ones."

"How about older stuff"

"I've gone through early Chaplin work. I've seen Metropolis 17 times."

"I'm sure there's something"

(grabs his friend)

"You don't understand, Paul. I've been reading Shannon. A Mathematical Theory of Communication. I've run out. I've taken to begging strangers for a fix."

"That bad?"

(Guilty), "I just... " (resigned) "I just asked someone to put up a torrent of Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. thesis..."

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by B1FF_PSUVM on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @04:23AM (#15540046)
> Movies. Even the japanese ones.

Even the Eastern European ones. And all of Ingmar Bergman.

(shudders)

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by scandinavegan on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @06:02AM (#15540473)
That's the good stuff! I recommend Satantango, and all of Bergman.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by ktta on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:39PM (#15538554)
Info hash: e5878b9cdd55286310135419a69371a31195a32a

Magnet link:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:e5878b9cdd55286310135419a69371a31195a32a&dn=PR-PHD-05437_CUDL2017-reduced.pdf&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexplodie.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.empire-js.us%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org

If you don't have a torrent client: https://instant.io/#e5878b9cdd55286310135419a69371a31195a32a

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by endswapper on Monday October 23, 2017 @07:26PM (#15537796)
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by DrScump on Monday October 23, 2017 @07:32PM (#15537838)
It would have been more helpful to post mirror site addresses rather than exacerbate the problem.

Anybody know of mirror sites? A basic web search doesn't show any, and archive.org doesn't show it.

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by matthewbadeau on Monday October 23, 2017 @08:56PM (#15538319)
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by its4tom on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @10:45AM (#15541917)
Link to thesis on Scribd in case helpful: https://www.scribd.com/document/362484322/Stephen-Hawking-Ph...
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by eighthnate on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:48PM (#15538606)
I just have to ask why this is news? Is this really something newsworthy?

Cambridge's network probably isn't as hardened to spikes in traffic since they don't get much traffic. But still, it isn't 1995. They should have some form of load balancing or distributed/clustered web/data/file systems to handle temporary spikes in traffic and data requests. Serving simple static data isn't something that should "crash the site".

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by Insanity on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @05:44AM (#15540401)
The technology behind the repository itself is not great. (DSpace[1]), add to that the factor that it is not actually build to handle this many requests and scaling quickly is out of the question too because of the server set up.

Even without issues, it often felt a bit sluggish when serving locally. The pages are quite large, and the whole pipeline from content -> webpage is rather tedious.(Java, XSLT -> html)

It shouldn't have happened - but I assumed it would.

disclaimer: I am a former contributor to the project [1]: https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by zamber on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @01:47PM (#15543533)
Suggestions on getting this in audio form? I guess it requires transcribing the handwritten parts. The Chrome OCR fails there. Is there a better one?

Sample:

This implies that the universe is spatially homogeneous and isotropic since there is no direction defined in the 3- space orthogonal to Ua. In this universe we consider small perturbations of the motion of tl1e fluid and of the '.ifeyl tensore 1 Ne neglect products of small quantities and perform derivatives with respect to the undisturbed metric. Since all the quantities we are interested in with the exception of the scalars, µ, ~' e have unperturbed value zero, we avoid perturbations that merely represent coordinate transformation and have no physical significance. To the first order the equations (1) - (4) and (7) - (9) are

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by accurrent on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:13PM (#15538393)
Article has a typo in the quote should be Olber not Older who described what's now known as Olbers paradox.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by dredmorbius on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @06:18AM (#15540536)
This points to challenges of digital information.

Stephen Hawking and his dissertation are high-profile as these things go. The NPR mentions other popular items generating 100s of requests per month. I've run across items with lifetime request counts in the double or triple digits frequently (and suspect I doubled the count on one particular item).

More often, though, the truth is that this material simply isn't available online. There are several thesis repositories (either Michigan State or University of Michigan are one, as I recall), and I can frequently turn up a shelf reference via WorldCat ... somewhere.

But there's work from surprisingly prominent names in numerous fields that simply isn't available in electronic format. The worst case is for materials from rougly 1924 - 1980: to late to be out of copyright, and too early to have been composed, or converted to, digital formats (and 1980 is an early cut-off date for that, though it's when material seems to start appearing in bulk).

This includes PhD dissertations, Masters theses, and numerous academic or other writings, often including government documents not under copyright. Thankfully with Sci-Hub, actual published academic journal articles can be found, freely, with a very high success rate. Particularly painful for me are popular magazine and newspaper items, for which even the indices are very frequently locked behind site-restricted or affiliate-only access.

The time-and-effort differential of being able to look something up online, vs. travelling many miles to a facility for access, is tremendous. And it absolutely stops a great many incidential queries dead.

See Rick Falkvinge's excellent rant about how the KRACK vulnerability was blocked behind corporate-only paywalls for over a decade:

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2017/10/the-recen...

Note that the issues here are twofold. One element is the task of scanning and making available documents, and organising the results in a manner useful for search.

But much the harm is the direct consequence of the present regime of copyright and paid access to information, AS WELL AS the perverse incentives of advertising-backed media and media manipulation have created a media regime that is actively harmful to society.

I'd really like to see the elements of this addressed.

Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by tbrock on Monday October 23, 2017 @09:38PM (#15538550)
99% chance someone used apache’s default configuration.
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by Bromskloss on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @09:02AM (#15541201)
What is the limitation in that default configuration?
Re:Stephen Hawking's Ph.D. Thesis Crashes Cambridge Site Aft... by jerf on Tuesday October 24, 2017 @12:02PM (#15542602)