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Re:It Takes Just $1k to Track Someone's Location with Mobile... by abalone on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @02:28PM (#15501634)
> Ads are not the main privacy issue any longer, since there’s client-side protection against them.

False. There is client-side protection in some browsers now, but this attack exploits native apps that submit precise geolocation when requesting location-targeted ads. It demonstrates how to essentially reverse engineer that precise location with a matrix of ads crafted for this purpose.

Re:It Takes Just $1k to Track Someone's Location with Mobile... by interfixus on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @09:36PM (#15504778)
There's very real client-side protection: Do not have sleazy, add-supported apps installed, and - for what it's worth - keep your GPS and location services turned off except when explicitly needed.
Re:It Takes Just $1k to Track Someone's Location with Mobile... by abalone on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @11:59PM (#15505377)
It’s not clear if you believe all ad-supported apps are sleazy or if you think it’s clear to users when apps use precise geotargeted ads. Either way that doesn’t constitute “very real client-side protection” anymore than expecting folks to regularly disable basic functionality.
Re:It Takes Just $1k to Track Someone's Location with Mobile... by mirimir on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @11:14PM (#15505218)
Better yet, don't use a smartphone when you care about your location being tracked.
Re:It Takes Just $1k to Track Someone's Location with Mobile... by monochromatic on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @11:31PM (#15505278)
Well, sure. If I'm ever going to go murder someone, I'll try to remember to leave it at home.

But I care some about it being tracked even when I'm not doing anything bad.

Re:It Takes Just $1k to Track Someone's Location with Mobile... by mirimir on Thursday October 19, 2017 @12:22AM (#15505441)
Well, OPSEC isn't all or nothing. And there's lots of other good advice.
Re:It Takes Just $1k to Track Someone's Location with Mobile... by _puk on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @03:18PM (#15502078)
There is a bit of an arms race between get a few $/c extra CPM by spoofing the geo location (the app needs to ask for this, and have reason to from App Store perspective, so not always available), and the data aggregators detecting said spoofing (all clients having the same geo / patterns in geo etc).

Reverse engineering will get you a PoC, but you can buy the cleansed data fairly easily (apparently..)

Re:It Takes Just $1k to Track Someone's Location with Mobile... by roblabla on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @03:16PM (#15502071)
My phone (Android/LineageOS) blocks native ads too. There's adaway that does this nicely. Client-side protection exists.
Re:It Takes Just $1k to Track Someone's Location with Mobile... by abalone on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @05:40PM (#15503430)
The claim was not merely that client-side protection "exists." It was that ads are not a privacy issue any longer, implying a ubiquitous native solution, which is false.

It's great that some OSes are trying to solve it system-wide but host blocking isn't viable as ubiquitous protection against this attack. It would just break all ads all the time, which ultimately would make the platform untenable for ad-based apps. What you want is something like the machine-learning Intelligent Tracking Prevention that Safari just rolled out, but applied to native apps. That is non-trivial.

Re:It Takes Just $1k to Track Someone's Location with Mobile... by Feniks on Thursday October 19, 2017 @09:08PM (#15512860)
"It would just break all ads all the time"

Sounds like a feature not a bug.

Anyways I'm sure tech savvy folks who care about privacy and hate ads already have all the basic angles covered. I know I do!

Re:It Takes Just $1k to Track Someone's Location with Mobile... by Twirrim on Wednesday October 18, 2017 @04:17PM (#15502553)
also DNS66 helps