Re:We are doing it wrong – the truth about agile development
by maxxxxx on Monday October 16, 2017 @10:53AM
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"Agile" should have stopped at the Agile Manifesto. The principles described there
are useful. Scrum sounds good in theory but in reality I have never seen it really work. Mostly it devolved into a micromanagement tool.
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Re:We are doing it wrong – the truth about agile development
by mattmanser on Monday October 16, 2017 @10:55AM
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I read this in the article, and had to wonder what on earth it had to do with making things:
If you are the scrum master, keep doing what you are doing. Keep coaching the development team on our core values of openness, commitment, focus, respect, and courage.
Re:We are doing it wrong – the truth about agile development
by maxxxxx on Monday October 16, 2017 @11:03AM
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The scrum masters I have seen (including myself) turned quickly into bureaucrats that mainly managed deadlines. In theory the scrum master should constantly improve processes but from what I have seen they quickly get blocked by management and don't achieve much.
Re:We are doing it wrong – the truth about agile development
by conradfr on Monday October 16, 2017 @12:27PM
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I jokingly called my last scrum master a "glorified assistant", he didn't like it.
Re:We are doing it wrong – the truth about agile development
by maxxxxx on Monday October 16, 2017 @12:52PM
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You start out with great intentions but then you realize quickly that you have no authority at all. We had problems with our JIRA setup so I tried to buy a few hours with a consultant to set it up correctly. This request got declined so it was clear to the devs that I couldn't help with things. The only thing you have is tracking hours.
Re:We are doing it wrong – the truth about agile development
by Domenic_S on Monday October 16, 2017 @12:43PM
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I've had the most conflict with team members who think "making things" is an end unto itself. Sometimes it is -- in your personal time, or if you're a researcher maybe, etc -- but in a business, making things is the means to an end. You need a methodology (scrum or something else) to keep the machine moving.
Re:We are doing it wrong – the truth about agile development
by conradfr on Monday October 16, 2017 @12:36PM
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I'm still not sure how a manifesto with "Individuals and interactions over processes and tools" ended up as the scrum cult.
Re:We are doing it wrong – the truth about agile development
by Domenic_S on Monday October 16, 2017 @12:38PM
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Huh, by-the-book scrum is the opposite of micromanagement.
Re:We are doing it wrong – the truth about agile development
by maxxxxx on Monday October 16, 2017 @12:53PM
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That kind of scrum is a pretty elusive beast. I have never seen it.
Re:We are doing it wrong – the truth about agile development
by Domenic_S on Monday October 16, 2017 @01:48PM
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I guess it depends on what you think micromanagement is. I know devs who think "you can work on any item in this list of things but no others" is micromanagement.
Re:We are doing it wrong – the truth about agile development
by msla on Monday October 16, 2017 @11:22AM
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To a micromanager, everything is a micromanagement tool.
You can't use methodology (or a pointed lack thereof) to change personality.