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Re:Hyperloop One Becomes ‘Virgin Hyperloop One’ by mseebach on Thursday October 12, 2017 @01:41PM (#15459719)
Given the key function railroads had in opening up the west, I think you'll struggle to argue that that was even close to a bad deal.

Indeed, that, if anything, is exactly the kind of investments that a government should be making.

Re:Hyperloop One Becomes ‘Virgin Hyperloop One’ by bufordsharkley on Thursday October 12, 2017 @06:27PM (#15461805)
If in the mid-19th century these were gifted to the railroad companies as 99 year leases, the value to the companies wouldn't have been very different, but we wouldn't be in thrall to them today.
Re:Hyperloop One Becomes ‘Virgin Hyperloop One’ by BRAlNlAC on Thursday October 12, 2017 @07:13PM (#15462106)
and what if the railroads looked at the 99 year lease offer and said, "no thanks fam"? What if is such a pointless game to play.
Re:Hyperloop One Becomes ‘Virgin Hyperloop One’ by bufordsharkley on Tuesday October 17, 2017 @09:28PM (#15496261)
99 year leases have been very, very common throughout history. Simply doing a present value calculation yields the result that to an investor, a 99 year lease and a 999 year lease are approximately the same value today.
Re:Hyperloop One Becomes ‘Virgin Hyperloop One’ by dnautics on Thursday October 12, 2017 @03:11PM (#15460473)
nongovernment investments tend to be more sustainable, because they are driven by observed demand, instead of cronyism or politics. This was one of the few railways to survive the great railway crash, it's still operated today:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_Railway_(U.S.)

Re:Hyperloop One Becomes ‘Virgin Hyperloop One’ by jychang on Thursday October 12, 2017 @04:37PM (#15461114)
> This was one of the few railways to survive the great railway crash

The government well made its money back before the great railway crash.

Let's say the Internet suffers a crash in a few decades. Few would argue that any previous investment into the Internet was not worth it.

Re:Hyperloop One Becomes ‘Virgin Hyperloop One’ by dnautics on Thursday October 12, 2017 @06:28PM (#15461817)
you're cherry picking an example that succeeded. Let's say DARPA's investment in ESP doesn't turn out in a few decades. Few would argue that any previous investment into ESP was not worth it. (disclaimer: I'm being paid on a stupid darpa grant now)
Re:Hyperloop One Becomes ‘Virgin Hyperloop One’ by icebraining on Thursday October 12, 2017 @04:43PM (#15461167)
Non-governmental investment - except for the 3 million acres in Federal land grants.