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Re:Show HN: Hacker News desktop application in Kotlin/Swing by pjmlp on Sunday October 08, 2017 @08:15AM (#15427930)
I agree with you.

Still it is a kind of first step.

Tooling was the major problem. Swing could be made to look as nice as WinForms, but defaults matter when developers are lazy.

Android is another example where if one wants to make cool Material design applications, some UI programming skill is needed.

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