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Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by aldeluis on Friday September 29, 2017 @10:29AM (#15365559)
I use 32bit server images in VPS because the RAM usage is significantly lower. This is critical in VPS units with 512MB of RAM... I'm worried.
Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by jcelerier on Friday September 29, 2017 @12:57PM (#15366955)
> I use 32bit server images in VPS because the RAM usage is significantly lower. This is critical in VPS units with 512MB of RAM... I'm worried.

You could use Debian x32 instead. 32 bit pointers but amd64 instruction set: https://wiki.debian.org/X32Port

Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by Iv on Friday September 29, 2017 @10:39AM (#15365654)
The proposal explicitly calls to keep i386 as a target for containers.
Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by oliwarner on Friday September 29, 2017 @07:30PM (#15370144)
You have 32bit support on 16.04 through 2021.

If by that point you can't just throw another 512 of RAM at the problem, I'd be worried. 1GB is already starting to become the lowest rung for VPS providers. That's the $5 plan at Linode, anyway. I fully expect that to be universal (or greater) in four years time.

And that's not to mention that while a little wider, 64bit is also faster. This could be a saving factor under load.

Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by slacka on Friday September 29, 2017 @12:22PM (#15366638)
Same, I also get by with 512MB. If i686 support is dropped, I'd need to move up to 1GB, which comes with a considerable cost increase.
Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by izacus on Friday September 29, 2017 @11:32AM (#15366165)
hmm, doesn't Linux have a mode where it keeps 32bit pointers even on x86_64? I remember reading about it.
Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by ant6n on Friday September 29, 2017 @11:35AM (#15366199)
x32 ABI. Although I've never heard of a Linux that's x32 only.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/X32_ABI

Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by giancarlostoro on Friday September 29, 2017 @01:19PM (#15367161)
According to another comment made recently Debian has such a flavor:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15366955

Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by ant6n on Friday September 29, 2017 @01:49PM (#15367463)
Neat! It seems the main drawback is that you only have 4GB of virtual memory. I wonder whether it would be possible to create some sort of hybrid that allows access to more memory. (himem? long-pointers? separating data/code/stack into different regions?)
Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by kasabali on Friday September 29, 2017 @09:28PM (#15370653)
last time I checked it was nothing more then a PoC. Firefox was missing.
Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by kobeya on Friday September 29, 2017 @06:11PM (#15369690)
Use the netinst image, which is still being maintained.
Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by DeepYogurt on Friday September 29, 2017 @10:38AM (#15365649)
Try a different distro?
Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by amongwhales on Friday September 29, 2017 @11:43AM (#15366269)
That's what I was thinking. Arch switched to all x86_64 a few months ago (announced the phase-out) but, Arch would probably be just as lightweight. I'm not sure what DE it comes with
Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by gh02t on Friday September 29, 2017 @01:55PM (#15367514)
> I'm not sure what DE it comes with

None, the default install of Arch leaves you with a terminal prompt and basic utilities. You can install whatever you like from there. It's closer to something like the Debian minimal install than Ubuntu desktop.

Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by amongwhales on Friday September 29, 2017 @05:17PM (#15369304)
I meant what does Ubuntu Server come with. Is it Unity too?
Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by gh02t on Friday September 29, 2017 @08:54PM (#15370512)
It doesn't come with one either, it's for servers. You can install the ubuntu-desktop package (which is basically what you get off of the desktop install disk) afterwards, though. Not really clear if that will still be option on i386, that is do a net install and then install ubuntu-desktop. It sounds to me like they are just retiring the installer images for i386 and not the desktop related packages, so if you really need it then you can go this route. I bet it won't be well tested/supported though.

On a related note, Unity is getting the axe and 17.10 will ship GNOME as the default DE.

Re:Change of scope and target market for i386 by sever5 on Friday September 29, 2017 @12:08PM (#15366531)
Debian is the go to, they maintain niche architectures and ports almost to a fault.