A “right to repair” movement tools up

Re:A “right to repair” movement tools up by bionoid on Thursday September 28, 2017 @06:53PM (#15361454)

> they're giving you a remanufactured iPhone using reused internal parts like screws or shielding

And, unless something changed recently, batteries. My iPhone 5 had a faulty charging socket, which got worse. A month after unboxing, it would no longer charge at all, so I handed it in for repair. Got back a unit with half the battery life and a faulty charging socket.

I gave it to a good GSoC student across the world after a second unsuccessful trip to service

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Re:A “right to repair” movement tools up by madeofpalk on Thursday September 28, 2017 @07:21PM (#15361594)

Consumable parts are and have never been reused. Just sounds like you had a faulty part, rather than a reused one.

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Re:A “right to repair” movement tools up by throwaway613834 on Thursday September 28, 2017 @07:24PM (#15361603)

> Consumable parts are and have never been reused

Are phone parts "consumable"? I thought "consumable" meant refers to things that get "used up" like milk, ink, pens, etc., not storage media or LCD screens or the like...

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Re:A “right to repair” movement tools up by digi_owl on Thursday September 28, 2017 @07:28PM (#15361622)

Batteries can be consumable after a fashion, as they lose capacity with each charge cycle. The effect can be reduced via certain techniques (depending on the battery chemistry involved), but so far never completely eliminated. Just consider it entropy in action, really.

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Re:A “right to repair” movement tools up by andrewkozak on Thursday September 28, 2017 @08:32PM (#15361902)

Is there any way to reclaim the resources in a "used up" battery to reintroduce them to the production chain?

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Re:A “right to repair” movement tools up by Dylan16807 on Thursday September 28, 2017 @08:49PM (#15361968)

You absolutely can, but it's currently not cost-effective. On the other hand it looks like it's cheap enough that making it mandatory or putting a recycling deposit on batteries would be viable.

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Re:A “right to repair” movement tools up by toomuchtodo on Thursday September 28, 2017 @09:32PM (#15362116)

Are battery recycling programs near you not feasible? Our local Home Depot and Best Buy stores will take back rechargeable batteries for recycling for free.

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Re:A “right to repair” movement tools up by Dylan16807 on Thursday September 28, 2017 @09:48PM (#15362179)

Do they recycle all of a lithium ion battery?

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Re:A “right to repair” movement tools up by ToFundorNot on Thursday September 28, 2017 @11:01PM (#15362443)

Very little of the physical (the lithium). However all of the precious materials (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_recycling#Lithium_ion_...).

It's not worth it to extract the lithium, monetarily speaking.

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Re:A “right to repair” movement tools up by bionoid on Friday September 29, 2017 @07:57AM (#15364493)

> Consumable parts are and have never been reused

Can you substantiate that? It's clearly at odds with my experience, neither of my two replacement units had a battery life that even came close to unboxed unit.

I just don't buy that every serviced device gets a new battery.

(I am in Europe by the way)

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Re:A “right to repair” movement tools up by icc97 on Friday September 29, 2017 @06:28AM (#15364093)

I thought the iPhone 5 had a pretty good iFixit score. The Teardown was a 7 out of 10 [0], which is one of the highest scores they've given.

[0]: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+5+Teardown/10525

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