Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by tonyedgecombe on Monday September 25, 2017 @04:30AM
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Why would I buy hardware from an advertising company?
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Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by deanCommie on Monday September 25, 2017 @04:34AM
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Because they're trying to diversify and find new revenue streams that don't depend on advertising.
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by mtgx on Monday September 25, 2017 @05:55AM
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Good for them. So do you think that when Google will make billions of dollars in profit a year from the hardware it sells, it will stop tracking user behavior on those same machines?
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by skj on Monday September 25, 2017 @07:03AM
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Now that seems like a move that would get picked up by monopoly watch dogs.
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by tonyedgecombe on Monday September 25, 2017 @05:12AM
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You are answering a different question there, I didn't ask why Google would make it.
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by CharlesDodgson on Monday September 25, 2017 @05:23AM
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I guess the counter could be, they are a company that is predominantly engineering focused, they have a good understanding of what it takes to make a customer product that is widely approved of.
Coupled with a ton of money, it's in a good position to make a product that is pretty good.
Now for $1800 it would really have to blow my socks off!
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by kyrra on Monday September 25, 2017 @10:48AM
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Just to add onto this, Google earned $3 billion in Q2 from "other revenues", which primarily is made up of: Play Store Apps/in-app, Google Cloud offerings, and Hardware. This is 12% of Google's total revenue.
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by Sephr on Monday September 25, 2017 @05:37AM
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Perhaps because it runs one of the most security-hardened OSes available.
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by mtgx on Monday September 25, 2017 @05:54AM
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And all of that security goes out of the window when Google stores all of your data on their servers, and it gets hacked. From what I've noticed hackers increasingly prefer going after major companies to steal user data now, because it's much easier to get millions of accounts in one go this way. Google may not be Equifax, but the more data it stores on us, the more juicier of a target it becomes, especially for nation states. Local national governments will also keep changing their laws to allow themselves to get more data from Google, too.
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by Sephr on Monday September 25, 2017 @06:11AM
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You can encrypt your profile sync data with a password different from your Google password, so that Google cannot read the data.
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by mstibbard on Monday September 25, 2017 @06:38AM
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How do you do this? I really need to step up my security game. As an aside - are you encrypting all your cloud storage data, and if so, what tool are you using?
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by kps on Monday September 25, 2017 @10:05AM
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> How do you do this?
Settings → Sync
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by priccis on Monday September 25, 2017 @08:11AM
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[rclone](http://rclone.org/crypt/)
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by mstibbard on Tuesday September 26, 2017 @09:24AM
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Is there a decent way to access rclone-crypt encrypted files from an Android or iOS device?
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by priccis on Wednesday September 27, 2017 @04:18PM
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Try rclone on Termux (https://termux.com/). See: https://github.com/ncw/rclone/wiki/rclone-on-Android-with-Te...
The thing is that you can't mount on Android since the lack of fuse on Termux.
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by jacksmith21006 on Monday September 25, 2017 @10:12AM
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Data is going to be much more secure on Google servers than anywhere else, imo.
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by Tepix on Monday September 25, 2017 @05:57AM
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Why would you buy an OS that has built-in advertising?
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by jacksmith21006 on Monday September 25, 2017 @10:13AM
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Use Chromeos and there are no ads. Actually only ad I have seen on a laptop was from MS trying to get people to buy One Drive storage
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by sangnoir on Monday September 25, 2017 @11:27AM
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Please stay on-topic and leave Windows 10 out of this /s
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by Gustomaximus on Monday September 25, 2017 @05:14AM
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Really. This is your comment on HN? Do you have any reason to believe Google are installing spyware? You cant see a company can operare in more than 1 area?
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by pjmlp on Monday September 25, 2017 @07:12AM
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Any Web app is spyware, because you don't control what is actually stored on remote servers.
Since ChromeOS is basically a browser based OS with high dependency on web applications,....
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by lallysingh on Monday September 25, 2017 @09:01AM
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That's a bit of a jump. In meatspace, that'd be like saying any person is a spy, because you don't control who they talk to.
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by pjmlp on Monday September 25, 2017 @09:18AM
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I assume you never had the "joy" of living in a authoritarian state.
I happen to know what PIDE/DGS stands for.
Every person even those that you think are your best friends, are a possible spy.
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by tonyedgecombe on Monday September 25, 2017 @11:24AM
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Hi, I'm a marketer working across all areas digital, and a few that are not.
I guess my attitude isn't great for your business, is it? Oh well.
Re:Google’s PixelBook: the target is bigger than it seems
by Gustomaximus on Thursday September 28, 2017 @07:45AM
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Marketing was a strong business back when newspaper and billboards dominated the industry. Sure personal information is useful for targeting. Should it be removed, it makes little difference to the industry or myself. Mainly there would be less relevant ads, ad stock going to less relevant eyeballs and some channel realignment. Your statement I am making this statement for my work is completely incorrect.