Apple does right by users and advertisers are displeased

Re:Apple does right by users and advertisers are displeased by votepaunchy on Thursday September 21, 2017 @05:09AM (#15301727)

Blocking a few egregious ad types is not at all the same as the blocking of privacy-invading cookies as Apple is doing.

> The Chrome ad blocker doesn’t just help publishers, it also helps Google maintain its dominance. And it advantages Google’s own ad units, which, it’s safe to say, will not be in violation of the bad ad rules.

Don’t be evil, indeed.

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Re:Apple does right by users and advertisers are displeased by KGIII on Thursday September 21, 2017 @05:12AM (#15301735)

Right, but it's a start - meaning they might eventually get there. It means there is pressure and that they may be obligated to take notice. It's not the end, it is the beginning.

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Re:Apple does right by users and advertisers are displeased by romanovcode on Thursday September 21, 2017 @05:24AM (#15301790)

> Right, but it's a start - meaning they might eventually get there.

Get where, exactly? 88% of Google money comes from Ads[0], if you think their plan is to remove them from web you are either crazy or stupid.

[0] - http://www.businessinsider.de/how-google-apple-facebook-amaz...

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Re:Apple does right by users and advertisers are displeased by KGIII on Thursday September 21, 2017 @06:08AM (#15301959)

It means it's a start towards protecting the user and working towards privacy and security goals. They will still make money selling ads.

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Re:Apple does right by users and advertisers are displeased by tryingagainbro on Thursday September 21, 2017 @06:42AM (#15302095)

It means it's a start towards removing competitors ads as "bad ones," meaning "use Adwords if you your ads to show and bypass the ad-blocker."

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Re:Apple does right by users and advertisers are displeased by Karunamon on Thursday September 21, 2017 @08:07AM (#15302499)

This is needlessly cynical. At the end of the day Google ads are unobtrusive and sane and have some standards in their construction. No fake download buttons, flashing gifs, and so on. It’s not their fault that most of the ad industry sucks.

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Re:Apple does right by users and advertisers are displeased by ocdtrekkie on Thursday September 21, 2017 @09:56AM (#15303396)

Actually, I spoke to a Googler about this a couple months ago, and this is actually false! Despite Google's Chrome/Security teams planning to penalize sites with fake download buttons in early 2016 (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/02/googl...), a Google employee actually confirmed for me that they weren't against the Ads team's policies, which is why they were still prevalent on sites with Google Ads this past year.

Which presumably means one division of Google could make money on a fake download button ad while another division of Google was penalizing a website for displaying it.

The employee in question said he was going to bring up the concern internally and try to get the policy changed, but I haven't heard anything since.

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Re:Apple does right by users and advertisers are displeased by KGIII on Thursday September 21, 2017 @08:40AM (#15302723)

HN is full of cynics today. Google commits to taking a step in the right direction and people just refuse to believe it. I don't mind the downvotes, I've got karma to spare, but it is pretty silly. They should be applauded and encouraged, and we should be happy they are going this far.

It's in Google's best interest to make ads less intrusive and offensive. That way, people have less incentive to block them. Google can, and will, still profit from ads. However, they need to be good stewards or more people are going to just block them.

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