News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Google Is Close to Buying HTC Assets to Bolster Hardware by dv_dt on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @04:22PM (#15297863)
Maybe the thing that's changed is Google's assessment of the viability of Tizen or windows phone, or other alternative phone platforms. At this point Google might very well say to Samsung, go ahead and drop Android if you feel the need.
Re:Google Is Close to Buying HTC Assets to Bolster Hardware by problems on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @04:49PM (#15298105)
Yeah, at this point in the game if it's not Android or iOS it's dead in the water. Spinning up another platform is likely difficulty to impossible - we've seen so many try and fail, Blackberry, Windows Phone, Tizen, Jolla, Ubuntu. It's a chicken and egg problem, to get more users you need existing users making apps and bragging about their device.
Re:Google Is Close to Buying HTC Assets to Bolster Hardware by wildmusings on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @06:06PM (#15298760)
The next big opportunity will be if and when some new category replaces phones for mobile computing, e.g. augmented reality glasses/contacts.
Re:Google Is Close to Buying HTC Assets to Bolster Hardware by duncan_bayne on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @05:29PM (#15298466)
It's hopefully not impossible - look at history for numerous cases of dominant OSs being displaced by newcomers. What are the odds that we have arrived at the point in history where that never happens again?

Difficult? Yes. Very, very difficult.

Re:Google Is Close to Buying HTC Assets to Bolster Hardware by simonh on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @07:04PM (#15299140)
>look at history for numerous cases of dominant OSs being displaced by newcomers...

Er, what? Let's see, what we're the dominant desktop OSes back in 1997? Windows and Mac. 20 years later? Still the same. Even 30 years ago it was DOS, the direct predecessor to Windows, and Mac.

In servers, various flavours of Unix have dominated for even longer. Arguably the dominant version at any one time was just the one that was closest to being a generic Unix as possible. Incompatible 'innovation' was punished mercilessly in the market.

The problem upstart OSes have to face is that encumbent OSes have established ecosystems of hardware and software support. Look at mobile. To compete with iOS you don't just have to compete with Apple, you have to compete with a $100bn+ ecosystem of apps, peripherals and services. Same with Android. Microsoft was just a few years behind them and it was too late even for them to break through with all their resources.

Unless Google or Apple do something monumentally stupid, they're going to stay dominant for decades to come.

Re:Google Is Close to Buying HTC Assets to Bolster Hardware by duncan_bayne on Thursday September 21, 2017 @03:06AM (#15301120)
Two quibbles: first, I'd argue that DOS, Windows 3.x/9x/ME, Windows NT are three separate OSs. Ditto MacOS and OSX.

Secondly, I think we're in agreement about the 'dominance for decades' thing. I should have said "Very, very hard ... and will take a long time."

Think of ITS, Symbolics, VMS, HPUX, Solaris, PalmOS, CP/M, OS/2 ... all once popular, now consigned to the dustbin.

Re:Google Is Close to Buying HTC Assets to Bolster Hardware by simonh on Thursday September 21, 2017 @06:28AM (#15302036)
Which of those ever had anything close to a 'dominant market position'?
Re:Google Is Close to Buying HTC Assets to Bolster Hardware by reaperducer on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @06:14PM (#15298808)
Nothing time and money can't solve. And if there's one thing Google has, it's money.

The problem is that Google has the attention span of a hamster on crack. Instead of giving a new handset platform time to grow and mature, it'll jettison the whole project before it gets a chance to gain traction.

Re:Google Is Close to Buying HTC Assets to Bolster Hardware by gordon_freeman on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @11:15PM (#15300345)
Same is true for most of Google's messaging apps: Gtalk, Buzz, Wave, Hangouts, Allo, Duo. Too many.
Re:Google Is Close to Buying HTC Assets to Bolster Hardware by cisanti on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @08:19PM (#15299564)
Because they implement the software manifesto build fast, ship often, fail quick to hardware. That's my opinion.