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Re:Public speaking for introverts by mrexroad on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @12:25PM (#15286042)
Fellow INTP here. The conflation of introvert and shy is a continual source of frustration. Even my immediate family was dismissive when I casually mentioned I’m pretty deeply introverted.
Re:Public speaking for introverts by netule on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @01:04PM (#15286475)
Modern society hasn't evolved to include introverted people. I find that in a business setting, I'm always forced to be fake-extroverted just to fit in or I might be perceived as having a mood. This is pretty apparent from the amount of books and articles there are for converting introverts into extroverts.
Re:Public speaking for introverts by Retra on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @10:14PM (#15290254)
I overheard someone giving advice to their daughter the other day that was basically "if you don't go out and meet new people, then you will be unhappy in your life." Which is absolute bullshit, but c'est la vie.
Re:Public speaking for introverts by analog31 on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @12:58PM (#15286405)
In my view, there are a lot of cases where people conflate the "clinical" and "popular" definitions of words. For instance if I say that I'm "depressed," it doesn't mean that I've been diagnosed with clinical depression. It just means that I'm bummed.

Unfortunately, people will interpret your comments according to their own biases, and I've that a lot of people are biased to distrust or dislike introverts. For this reason, I would never admit to being an introvert, in a business setting. I would rather tell people that I'm mildly extroverted, and then let them believe what they want.

Re:Public speaking for introverts by mixmastamyk on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @09:10PM (#15290023)
Why would you be discussing your personal attributes in a business setting?
Re:Public speaking for introverts by analog31 on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @09:44PM (#15290120)
Interestingly, I once worked for an employer that required everybody to take a personality test. The results were never discussed with anybody, and the whole thing could have been a bunch of hocus pocus, but it nonetheless raised the issue.
Re:Public speaking for introverts by INTPenis on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @03:05AM (#15291404)
It's actually pretty common to do personality testing in businesses.

Some hire an MBTI consultant for whole workshop days. Some just order a pre-made test.

Re:Public speaking for introverts by analog31 on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @09:17AM (#15293373)
When taking the test, it should be possible to identify the questions that code for the "extrovert" and "introvert" scale.
Re:Public speaking for introverts by INTPenis on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @03:25PM (#15297330)
Oh yes it is. That's the sad part. When you find yourself manipulating your own personality test. :) I actually meant to reply to the person above you who was surprised that you'd reveal that information in a business setting.
Re:Public speaking for introverts by analog31 on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @05:09PM (#15298279)
I've thought a bit about it, and am actually OK with it. For one thing, we manipulate our own personalities, so why not our personality tests. It's our job to make people comfortable working with us. The people whom we work with don't have to know what we're actually thinking at any given moment. In fact, I suspect if it were actually possible to create an algorithm that opens up a window into our minds, civility and collaboration would collapse.
Re:Public speaking for introverts by mrfusion on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @01:48PM (#15286932)
Totally agree. I'm actually a shy extrovert. I'm unhappy around people and not around people :-(