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Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by amedvednikov on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @08:43AM (#15284103)
> There's unlikely to be a desktop client which is actually usable

Check out eul, it's a native desktop client for all major messaging platforms. Signal support is coming in October. It's only 4 MB, and it can handle thousands of messages without lag.

https://eul.im

Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by faitswulff on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @09:26AM (#15284353)
This reminds me of when I used Trillian IM/Pidgin/Meebo back in the day. Everything old is new again!
Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by amedvednikov on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @11:17AM (#15285367)
And Miranda!
Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by StavrosK on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @11:36AM (#15285573)
Man, Miranda was so fantastic. Miranda and Winamp are the only two programs I miss from my Windows days.
Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by Toast_25 on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @01:41PM (#15286849)
Music Bee is pretty good. Not sure if it's still around though, I mostly listen to music on my phone/youtube nowadays and work doesn't let me download music to my computer.
Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by Dolores12 on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @11:36AM (#15285563)
still using miranda-ng with OTR plugin.
Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by StavrosK on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @11:35AM (#15285560)
Seems to only be 4 MB because it downloads 100 MB of "embedded browser" when you first run it. I smell an Electron.
Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by amedvednikov on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @12:58PM (#15286412)
It's about 40 MB compressed, and it's only used for authentication. The app will work without it.

I'm really sad it has to be downloaded, but there's no other way to do authentication. Will switch to Servo once it's ready, it's only ~20 MB.

Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by mi100hael on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @12:08PM (#15285879)
"native"

> doctor_evil_quote_fingers.jpg

Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by problems on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @10:39AM (#15285017)
Yeah, just go ahead and use some random closed-source IM tool for your secure messaging - seems like a great idea.
Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by anc84 on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @10:18AM (#15284804)
How do you plan to maintain it? No ads, full privacy, how will you eat? Why is it not free and open-source?
Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by dTal on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @10:57AM (#15285197)
Agreed. The polish, development schedule, and binary-only distribution all say "commercial software", but the lack of license or obvious commercial strategy say "what's going on here".

Looking at your comment history (on both your accounts), you say you plan to open-source it, but you're not sure under what license, and you also hope to make money off it but you're not sure how - possibly through a "paid option"? I commend your effort, but until the exact nature of the project is settled, I would expect confusion and reluctance on the part of your potential users.

Personally, I would never use a secure messenger I couldn't compile myself.

Some previous threads: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14778263 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15209790 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15081269

Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by amedvednikov on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @11:21AM (#15285404)
Good points, I'll make the strategy more clear now that I also have a more clear picture.
Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by amedvednikov on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @11:17AM (#15285371)
There is going to be a freemium model. I'm working on setting up a company, this should be done by the end of the month.
Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by rdl on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @01:47PM (#15286920)
This sounds great; I'm sure people on HN would be happy to help out if you have any questions.
Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by superkuh on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @10:36AM (#15284988)
> all major platforms

No IRC.

Re:Signal’s Moxie Marlinspike calls out Telegram founder Pav... by amedvednikov on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @11:16AM (#15285362)
Yes IRC! It's just not listed on the home page, I'll fix that.