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Re:Interview with GoCardless CEO Hiroki Takeuchi after paral... by buro9 on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @06:35AM (#15283310)
London has already proven, during the month of restrictions around the Olympic Games, that it is possible to massively reduce motorised vehicle traffic within zone 1 and zone 2 during the workday without causing harm to businesses and the functioning of the city. Most people felt that the quality of life in London dramatically improved during the games, and one of the major reasons cited is reduced traffic, cleaner air, pedestrianised zones, increase in cycling, smoother traffic flow for public transport, out of hour deliveries, etc.

It's already been successfully done, there is just a lack of political will to make such measures permanent.

Re:Interview with GoCardless CEO Hiroki Takeuchi after paral... by zimpenfish on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @07:43AM (#15283706)
> cleaner air

Ride 100 provides an excellent demonstration of this even just by closing -some- roads for -one- day.

cf this graph of pollution on Putney High Street:

https://twitter.com/jwoLondon/status/892004529545379840

Re:Interview with GoCardless CEO Hiroki Takeuchi after paral... by barrkel on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @08:02AM (#15283834)
People simply do business on a different day to cycle takeovers.
Re:Interview with GoCardless CEO Hiroki Takeuchi after paral... by zimpenfish on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @10:33AM (#15284946)
I can't really fathom what your point is here? No cars means no pollution -> reducing the amount of cars reduces the pollution. Is that disputed?
Re:Interview with GoCardless CEO Hiroki Takeuchi after paral... by wlesieutre on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @12:21PM (#15286010)
Their point is that the closing a road once doesn't just make all the pollution not happen, it time-shifts some of it to other days when people are driving again.

I expect there are some people who do make other arrangements and take a bus, so it's a net gain, but there are also those who take their car on Monday since they couldn't on Sunday.

EDIT: I looked up how RideLondon works, map at the end of this PDF shows road closures https://d1ffaecguugkl4.cloudfront.net/ridelondon/live/upload...

So it's not even time-shifting necessarily. People can drive around that and just move the pollution from one street to the next. But yes, the pollution measurements on one of the closed roads would look better that day.

Re:Interview with GoCardless CEO Hiroki Takeuchi after paral... by zimpenfish on Wednesday September 20, 2017 @04:06AM (#15291640)
> closing a road once doesn't just make all the pollution not happen

Yes, I know, it was an illustration of how much pollution is caused by traffic in London and how much could be gained by reducing those traffic levels overall. I am baffled that this is causing confusion to people.

Re:Interview with GoCardless CEO Hiroki Takeuchi after paral... by barrkel on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @07:58AM (#15283805)
You're not considering how much activity was displaced by the Olympics. Many people just went on holiday. Traffic is already lower in summer because of holidays, as well as reduced school runs.

My own commute times nearly doubled with the Olympic lanes. It would have been intolerable permanently.