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Re:The end of Framework Churn by coldtea on Monday September 18, 2017 @02:58PM (#15278519)
>People use this comic way too often to shush those of us who want to have a debate about whether a standard would be useful in a particular situation

And more often than not, they are right.

In this particular case Web Components only solves part of what frameworks do, and solves it badly. As badly as CSS solved the layout problem the last 2 decades.

I wouldn't mind a nice Web Components solution, but the current design reminds me of the over-engineering of things like Swing and JSF.

Re:The end of Framework Churn by pjmlp on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @01:53AM (#15282109)
Actually I rather pick a Swing or JSF project over any modern HTML 5 one, if given the option.

Now the latest Web framework trend is to do start headless browsers to do server side rendering.

Re:The end of Framework Churn by marcosdumay on Monday September 18, 2017 @04:26PM (#15279207)
> And more often than not, they are right.

And yet, every time that the number of standards is reduced, it is by this same process.

So, yes, it is the one way to do it. And yes, more often than more, it fails completely. So, let me ask you, what is the point of complaining that somebody is going through that?

Re:The end of Framework Churn by coldtea on Monday September 18, 2017 @05:17PM (#15279686)
>And yet, every time that the number of standards is reduced, it is by this same process

Is it? I'd say it's usually rather because:

(a) Some of the competing standards wither and we get rid of them.

(b) Some standard emerges as the winning one and is adopted by everybody.

But very rarely by the addition of a new standard.

Re:The end of Framework Churn by marcosdumay on Monday September 18, 2017 @05:48PM (#15279944)
So, some standard emerging does not require creating standards?

And for competing standards to wither, there somebody must have created the other standards too.

Re:The end of Framework Churn by coldtea on Tuesday September 19, 2017 @03:22AM (#15282460)
>So, some standard emerging does not require creating standards?

I wrote "emerges as winner". Not "emerges period".

Which does not require creating a NEW standard on top of existing ones (N+1), since an already existing standard (of N) can emerge as the winner.