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Re:The Equifax Breach Exposes America's Identity Crisis by dboreham on Sunday September 10, 2017 @09:03AM (#15212055)
Ability to execute data as code is present in many languages. Almost all of them these days. I think you are saying that banks should only use C or C++ ??
Re:The Equifax Breach Exposes America's Identity Crisis by bunderbunder on Sunday September 10, 2017 @09:52AM (#15212215)
I don't know Java well, but at least in .NET it's possible to set a flag that disable execution of dynamically emitted code.

Obvs, you should do this on every box that accepts connections from the outside world.

Obvs, it's no easier to get people to do this in practice than it is to get people to quit using string formatting to get parameters into their SQL queries.

Re:The Equifax Breach Exposes America's Identity Crisis by tomrod on Sunday September 10, 2017 @10:58AM (#15212452)
Make it opt out/default behavior.
Re:The Equifax Breach Exposes America's Identity Crisis by tannhaeuser on Sunday September 10, 2017 @09:26AM (#15212122)
Or use other statically compiled languages instead.

Or at least use Java or O/S sandboxing features.

At least in the web-facing parts of their apps.

In any case, this requires some planning ahead, and a mindset different from "agile".

Maybe Java 9's AOT compilation can help in the process, but even if it could produce stand-alone programs, I think the dynamisms in Java code (reflection, annotations, dynamic class loaders) will make this infeasible for most code bases.

Re:The Equifax Breach Exposes America's Identity Crisis by wschroed on Sunday September 10, 2017 @09:27AM (#15212129)
He is saying they should practice process isolation. Example architecture: https://cr.yp.to/qmail/guarantee.html
Re:The Equifax Breach Exposes America's Identity Crisis by phamilton on Sunday September 10, 2017 @12:48PM (#15212995)
He also suggests that even with process isolation in the application layer, the database is likely not going to be isolated and you'll be breached anyway.

The qmail architecture would likely be very inefficient with 100M+ users.

Re:The Equifax Breach Exposes America's Identity Crisis by mannykannot on Sunday September 10, 2017 @10:01AM (#15212245)
DEP and ASLR provide significant mitigation of the threat posed by this capability in statically-compiled languages, so it is definitely an issue that should be considered, along with others. Having said that, it is unlikely that there is any merely technical solution for the problem, which arises from the whole system being predicated on a falsehood - the assumed confidentiality of SSNs.
Re:The Equifax Breach Exposes America's Identity Crisis by daxelrod on Sunday September 10, 2017 @11:41AM (#15212669)
Programs in C and C++ can still execute data as code with buffer overflows. They're not a panacea either.
Re:The Equifax Breach Exposes America's Identity Crisis by ithkuil on Sunday September 10, 2017 @03:46PM (#15213948)
That's right, but the OP did mention how that issue is addressed in c/c++:

> so you can't use straightforward NoExecute bits (provided by hardware and supported by OS loaders to disallow calling into dynamically allocated memory

Re:The Equifax Breach Exposes America's Identity Crisis by paulddraper on Sunday September 10, 2017 @10:00AM (#15212238)
Buffer overflow