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Re:Lisp Machine Manual (1984) by pjmlp on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @02:58PM (#15186202)
Lisp workstations were quite expensive with proprietary source code, while UNIX workstation were built on source code available almost for free (AT&T could not sell it so they licensed it for a symbolic price), which made them cheaper to sell.

Also the companies involved in selling Lisp machines did quite a few management errors.

Re:Lisp Machine Manual (1984) by Animats on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @04:07PM (#15186710)
Ask anyone who owned a Symbolics 3600, a single-user machine the size of a refrigerator. Overpriced hardware. Poor maintenance service and low hardware reliability. A level of company arrogance seldom seen in a small company. (They thought they were going to rule AI. Didn't happen.) And, originally, 45-minute garbage collections. (Virtual memory plus slow disk plus naive garbage collection.)

What really killed them was decent LISP compilers for mainstream CPUs. LISP doesn't really need special hardware with tag bits.

Re:Lisp Machine Manual (1984) by lispm on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @04:42PM (#15186970)
When the machine appeared there was nothing like it. Later machines were more robust and also smaller using microprocessors, downto Lisp Machines on Nubus cards for Macs.

> a small company

At max they had 1000 employees.

> And, originally, 45-minute garbage collections

Then they invented and commercialized better GCs.

Re:Lisp Machine Manual (1984) by taeric on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @09:33PM (#15188522)
I'm beginning to find that small companies have more arrogance than larger. Just, confirmation bias seems to get people to remember the ones with the skills to back it up. Most companies fail without you ever hearing of them.
Re:Lisp Machine Manual (1984) by pjmlp on Wednesday September 06, 2017 @04:14PM (#15186760)
Yes, that is what I meant with management errors.